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I'm a big fan of Corey Ford. Back when "The Lower Forty" appeared in every issue of F&S, it was the first thing I read. So I hate to be a wet blanket here. But as a writer and a champion of intellectual property rights, I have to point out that right at the beginning of the article, it states that it is published with the permission of Dartmouth College (which owns the rights to all of Ford's material). Which means that if you don't have the permission of Dartmouth College, then you can't republish it on the Internet. While I doubt that any problems will arise as a result, there is the potential to get Dave into trouble for permitting the publication of entire articles (short quotes are OK) which are not in the public domain.
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Seems to fall within parameters of fair use doctrine. I'm not a lawyer, but...
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hey, here is ah warning for all seasons guys...watt say we make an effort to keep this thread an awl udders on ah positive track ...an stop with thu negative bull shit about such droll subjects as possible copyright interpretations by predatory lawyers...
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keep it simple and keep it safe...
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anybody else here ever read "my friend the partridge", by s.t. hammond?
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Ed, are there any other kind of lawyers today.?? I'll bet my well-worn copy of "Minutes of the Lower Forty" that Dartmouth College, from which institute Corey did Not graduate, by the way-will never even bother with any kind of action against this forum, or our host, Dave.. RWTF
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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Linking to copyrighted materials http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/linking-copyrighted-materialsLaurie Morrow owned / still owns? the rights to Corey Ford's works, including "The Minutes of the Lower Forty" published in Field & Stream, and is the official biographer of Dartmouth College Corey Ford Archives. One must assume Field & Stream had permission to place the story on the web, available to anyone in the world with access to the internet ie. public domain. It's the first link that comes up by googling "The Road to Tinkhamtown".
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The fact that other websites have chosen to publish the story doesn't make it right. Try telling the cop that it's not right to arrest you for going 64 in a 55mph zone, because 4 other people just passed you going faster. When F&S published it in 2010, they made specific mention of obtaining permission from Dartmouth College--which owns the rights to all of the original Corey Ford material, from which this version of the story comes. Back when I used to frequent the SSM BB, someone did the same thing over there. I raised the same point. Shooting Sportsman agreed. Probably because, like F&S, they are a real print and ink publication. But internet rights are covered under the same rules as all other rights to republish. When I sell an article, I only sell first North American rights, unless there's a different agreement. Which means the magazine to which I sell it cannot publish it on their website--nor can anyone else publish it without my permission. If someone owns the rights to the material, while you can publish short quotes, you cannot LEGALLY publish the entire story anywhere without the permission of whomever owns the rights to the material. My goal here is not to keep anyone from reading anything Corey Ford wrote. It's to keep people like Dave, who owns this website, from potentially ending up in trouble. Same goes for the other websites listed above, who chose not to follow THE SAME RULE THAT FIELD & STREAM FOLLOWED WHEN THEY PUBLISHED THE STORY. The permission that F&S received from Dartmouth College was for F&S specifically. Not for other people who read F&S, subscribe to F&S, etc. That permission does not pertain to anyone except F&S, for that specific use. This has become a really big deal with writers with the growth in the internet, and a lot of people running websites who don't understand the rules. Most of the time they get by because what they're doing "flies under the radar". But if it's a website on which I participate, I never hesitate to issue a warning that by doing something like this, you're risking getting the website into trouble.
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Larry's right but like my house dog Cooper sometimes, I think he's barking at zombie possums. If Dartmouth didn't want the Ford properties published on the internet, they'd have to enforce that right, which it seems apparent from all the places "Tinkhamtown" appears they have not...Geo
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Larry's right but like my house dog Cooper sometimes, I think he's barking at zombie possums....Geo Sounds about right. No one is lining up to steal Larry’s stuff. ________________________ “But as a writer...” L Brown I guess, sorta kinda. More like journalist.
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