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It doesn't pay to be nice to underhanded liberal college professors. And you know this how? My kids don't have any doubt that my point of view is to give, or that they gave, the 'prof' whatever they wanted regurged. College is not a place to learn, if a value is real or perceived, all that matters is the indiviual grade or the overall degree, not whether the kid needs ankle boots or chest waders to get from point A to point B.
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["Geo,
Dont be that guy. Fix it correctly, or hang it on the wall, sans firing pins, as a display piece."]Ted
Actually, the Iver Johnson 20ga is in pretty good shape except for a little freckling of pitting and the bottom rib being loose. The rib was fine until I lost my grip on the barrels while power spinning some four ought steel wool to get the rust out of the bores, and dropped them on the concrete floor of my workshop.
I probably will get a quote on properly reattaching the rib and maybe a pass of the reamer to backbore the pits out. It would make a nifty bird gun. I bought the gun pretty cheap at a local gun show...Geo
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The rib was fine until I lost my grip on the barrels while power spinning some four ought steel wool to get the rust out...Geo Shoulda had it in a vise. _________________________ jOe or Tim can help you with that.
Last edited by lonesome roads; 12/16/19 01:15 PM. Reason: Hope Fox didnt see that
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The rib was fine until I lost my grip on the barrels while power spinning some four ought steel wool to get the rust out...Geo Shoulda had it in a vise. _________________________ jOe or Tim can help you with that. Just what this thread needs a turn into the wacky world of vises...Geo
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The rib was fine until I lost my grip on the barrels while power spinning some four ought steel wool to get the rust out...Geo Shoulda had it in a vise. _________________________ jOe or Tim can help you with that. Just what this thread needs a turn into the wacky world of vises...Geo Only wacky at jOe's house. The F'er manages to bust one, now and then. Best, Ted _____________________________ At Lanny's house, it is "vice". He has a bunch!
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My working waterfowl gun is a 30" Lefever Nitro Special. Duck/marsh rolled on both sides of frame. Would that be Lefever Arm Co's version of the "Long Range" Western Field? The Lefever Arms Nitro Special & the Western Arms Long Range were essentially the same guns, "Except" the Nitro Special had a forged steel frame while the Long Range frame was made of malleable Iron. As the NS came first I would say the LR was a version of it, rather than the other way around. Both were built by Ithaca & neither were related, except by name, to the original Lefever Arms Co guns of Syracuse NY. The Nitro Special was the first double introduced by Ithaca after the development of progressive burning powders & such loads as we currently call Express/SuperX & etc. The weakness of the Flues had not lain within its barrels but its frame. Flues failures were not a result of higher pressures, but of throwing the max shot load to higher velocities. The Nitro Special remedied this problem in what was at the time their most econmical double. Shotly thereafter the Flues was discontinued & the NID inroduced.
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Looking at the Nitro Special side by side with the NID, it is apparent they are closely related. Ithaca put the Flues and any issues of sensitivity to ammunition out to pasture with both designs.
I realize there are guys that like the Flues, and use and collect them. But, they are old and fragile antiques compared to the newer Ithaca doubles.
Best,
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_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) =>/ ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/qclHjMQ.jpg)
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Both of my Grandfathers were small farmers west of Minneapolis, and both with their brothers owned threshing machines and steam engines and made their living with their threshing crews. One shot an 1890 vintage PH-grade Parker Bros. he got in 1901 after a brief affair with one of them new fangled Winchester pumps. The other, who died of the flu during The Great War had a W.H. Davenport single barrel. Lefever Arms Co., Inc, visuals --  Lefever Arms Branch, Ithaca Gun Co., Inc. -- 
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Oh, boy. 1500 views in the first day. This level of interest in guns that dont get a lot of attention (or love) as well as reflection on their places in our family histories and national heritage is gratifying.
And, thanks, Researcher, for the Ithaca Lefever sheets.
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Speude Bradeos
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