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Thanks for everyone's feedback. I will look at 10gas the same as 12gas in terms of value, now.

Ok- I'll take a shot. Why indeed does a 16 gauge command a premium over the same gun and grade over a 12? Here in MI- a visit to Cabelas will show a 35% premium in hunting loads of the "bastard gauge" over the std. 12- and as for steel waterfowl loads- forget about that-- hard if not impossible to find 16's.

Take a visit to a SD hunting lodge in late OCT-- pheasant and duck hunting galore- and survey the gauges used by the hunters-- or a visit to Stuttgart in late Nov. how many serious hunters are shooting 16 gauge waterfowl guns. Now up in NE, where grouse and woodcock might be the targets de jour- perhaps more 20's, 16's and 28 gauges are used, that might be different. RWTF

In reality there were somewhat fewer Ithaca NID Super-10s built than the Magnum-10s.

Charlie Price presented a paper on Parker Gun Gauges Over the Years at the PGCA 7th Annual Meeting and Conference held at Cleveland, Ohio, July 21, 2001. Parker Bros. 10-gauge production peaked in the 1881 to 1885 time period at 11,632 guns, but was still less than 12-gauge production of 14,470. In the five year period after the Super-10 load was introduced, 1926-1930 the Brothers P only produced 84 10-gauges. From 1931 to WW-II only 15 10-gauges were produced to 2848 12-gauges. No breakdown on how many were Super-10s and how many Magnum-10s. You can see these late steel barrel Parker 10-gauges are quite rare and do command a premium.

There are the type of exceptions as Researcher points out, but in general I think the 12 gauges bring more than 10 gauges, all else being equal. I think this is especially so in European hammer guns, especially British.

As long as we are on the subject of 10-gauges, has anyone found/seen/heard of a 10-gauge Remington Hammerless Double in a grade higher than CE-/CEO-Grade?

I shot my 10ga 2 5/8" at the Southern a few years ago. The event was a 50-shot outing and before sallying forth, I stopped by the RST tent to buy target shells. 50 shells = $50, $1 per shell. Upon inquiring as to the cost, I was told they have one employee on a MEC single press making these shells one at a time. The cost of shooting does deter my enjoyment of the gun as I do not have 10ga reloading equipment.

That is what Gauge-Mates are for. Can't remember the last time I actually shot a 10-gauge shell in one of my 10-gauges. Work just fine with my STS handloads

I have also used Gauge-Mates in my ten with good results, but always wonder if the 12 ga. wad allows a lot of gas leakage. Thoughts?

Yes, it allows some gas leakage, (A LOT I do not know), but not much effect on performance
I really like my Gauge-Mates
Does crease the hulls, but I have MANY hulls
Mike

Lot of trap shooters out there hammering away with a Stan Baker "Big-Bore" barrels that are .800" from the chamber to the choke.