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Replacement,
Same deal here in WA; non-toxic only on pheasant release sites (pretty much all of the public lands). I bought a Benelli Ultralight just because of it when the law kicked in. Started with steel #4. Nothing hit the ground dead. Luckily I have good dogs. I settled on 1 1/4 oz. 3" steel #3 shot, which does the trick. I don't notice the recoil. Now I shoot Bismuth #5 shot, 1 oz., in a 20 gauge double or O/U. Works just fine.
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Bruce, I have to say, I have killed a fair number of birds with #4 steel in 12 gauge, 2.75". All wild birds over mostly flushing dogs at that.
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While I have never tried them( I'm pretty decrepit now), George at T&G German Gun Imports is pretty "high" on APEX shells. From what I gather they use Tungsten shot and would be classified as non-toxic. They also seem to be made in the US. They are expensive, but I don't know if one round costs as much as five rounds of steel.
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Bruce, I have to say, I have killed a fair number of birds with #4 steel in 12 gauge, 2.75". All wild birds over mostly flushing dogs at that. All we hear is complaints about crippling birds with steel shot... except from anti-lead ammunition advocates like BrentD. Of course, this is the same anti-lead BrentD that absolutely hates this forum, and encourages a financial boycott of support for this forum... Yet he cannot stay away and remain at the Upland Journal forum that he does support.
The NRA has proven itself unreliable and corrupt.
Period.
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Of course, this is the same anti-lead BrentD that absolutely hates this forum, and encourages a financial boycott of support for this forum... Yet he cannot stay away ................... This has been recognized for millennia as hypocrisy. Anyone who puts any stock in the words of a hypocrite deserves the outcome that may result from their gullibility. SRH
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