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I believe they retain the firing pins in the action.
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I have a database of 450 extant Reilly's, which used just about every patent known to UK in the 1800's. But this is the only one I've ever seen with those screws. I will write to the firm advertising the gun about it...I can date the gun based on SN, comment on the label in the case. But those screws? WTH?
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Look and see if they have a relatively tiny hole drilled in the center. They could be vents to keep a pierced primer from blowing out the stock.
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I've looked for patent numbers on this gun.....niente, rien, nada.//unless it's been ground off? So who put those screws there and why?
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The screws on the flats are right over the cocking levers, maybe a way to limit cocking lever travel?
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I believe they retain the firing pins in the action. I have a couple of early Clabroughs and they have screws in the fences. And yes, on these the screws retain the firing pins. For some reason your pics didn't show until after I typed my post. Mine are hammer guns which yours obviously is not.
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Those screws seem exceptionally large to be firing pin retainers, and on my guns that have such, the screws come in from the sides. These are really large and oddly placed in my opinion, but what else could they be? I like Rocketman's post. Great creativity.
I take it you do not have the gun in hand or you would have pulled them by now.
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They are not striker retainers but the securing pins for the plate that covers the top of the extension to the top lever that engages with the barrel top rib extension. You need to remove the plate to dismantle the top lever/ Scott Spindle joint. And that tell's you what you need to know about the identity of the patentee: you will find that the top rib extension has a square hole in it and the toplever extension has a square section 'hook' like bite. This is a Scott patent that covers a few variants of this basic design. I sold a gun with the same plate not so long back, the details can be viewed here. Patent details are the bottom of the page. It is a commonly seen patent in guns made by Scott of this era. http://heritageguns.co.uk/Leech%2012%20SLE%203274/Leech%2012%20SLE%203274%20Details.htm
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Thanks Toby - fine explanation. If there is a patent use number on the gun somewhere, it would be interesting to find out when that use number was executed. Are patent use numbers for the Scott patent still on record somewhere? Who might retain these? (By the way, you do an excellent job listing patents etc. on guns you sell - would that others were as professional). The above referenced Reilly is listed on Guntrader.UK: https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns/r...200227180805801
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