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CB, You have a great project here and will soon have a great gun to use. I suspect on an undertaking like this, you've enjoyed the gun all along but more so as each step unfolds and confirms the faith you launched from. Nowadays, work like this reminds us what is possible and gives us a glimpse of what normal life has to offer when we get back to it. Thank you.
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Bill, you probably don't have to wait. I'd bet you could go to the range every day if you felt like it, and if this project was F/F, you might even take it out for spring turkey. The only thing on hold is tofu lattes and conventions, no big deal.
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Thanks Bill.
Craig, more on this later in the thread but the starting point for the chokes was .048/.048 A buddy's Superfox is only marginally tighter at .050/.051
I know that during the repair of the barrels, to remove all trace of the dents, a slight honing was required but I believe the chokes would still be a very tight extra full choke. While I want to use it on waterfowl, I'm hoping it becomes death to turkey. Not this season though. Opens in one week. Can't wait.
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I probably missed it, but I didn't realize the gun was choked like that. There's so much conversation about opening chokes up, glad you're leaving this one alone.
I can understand someone wanting a big hammer, but if the dekes are working half way decent, an ounce and an eighth of bismuth at 1200 or maybe 1250fps would be my thinking for plenty of fall duck medicine. It's what I'm planning this fall for a F/F gun that I just started shooting again at some informal clays for the first time in about twenty-five years. I guess I'm a little bored? Enjoying the write up, I'm following along.
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Craig, that's exactly the kind of load I'm thinking of, although I still have some TM in 1 1/4 oz. Looking forward to patterning it.
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One thing I absolutely love about this gun, other than its intrinsic beauty overall, is the figure and color of the wood. It's my idea of perfect in beauty. The red/brown color, the black mineral streaking throughout make this my idea of "as good as it gets". You cannot go buy wood with that color anymore. There's plenty out there that will rival and even surpass the figure, but that color wood is long gone. JR
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[quote=Recoil Rob]Do we know how many of this era Lindner/Day's were made? If my memory serves correctly, according to Ken Georgi,the current custodian of the Daly list which contains data on several hundred Dalys (mostly Lindners), the highest recorded number in the first numbering sequence (pre 1892-3)is #3950. Lindner guns made during this period were marked with a crown over crossed pistols. Remember these are Lindner numbers not Daly numbers. Lindner also made guns for several other American retailers but most went to Daly. The first 200+ or so numbers appear not to be reused. lindner started the second set of numbers in 1892-3. So, from 1868-1870 to 1892-3,(the first number period), Lindner, including Georg,the father and Hendrick, the son, numbered less than 4,000 guns. The second numbering sequence began in 1892-3. )It gets pretty sketchy exactly when. The German government claimed the crown symbol for it's own proof mark in 1892. With the crown no longer available, Lindner began using "HAL" over crossed pistols although there are reports of guns marked only with crossed pistols during that transitory period. It appears the the second numbering sequence did not start at "1" but at 200+. Guns marked with a crown or no crown over crossed pistols have been reported with second series numbers. The second series of numbers ended at less than #2700 in 1917 when German shipping was denied access to the US. So, less than 2500 Lindner guns were produced with second series numbers The last couple of hundred guns produced were mostly single barrel trap guns. The one thing that is clear is that regardless of when it was made, a Lindner made gun was made to the highest standards and priced accordingly.
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Craig, I do hope to put in some range time soon. We're lucky here to be out from the worst of the plague. As for turkey hunting, I have no experience or skill, but I like knowing they're out there. I keep busy inventing things to do in the shop. I'm winding up a percussion case adaptation and gritting my teeth to launch some bluing work I've put off for months. Claudio's work helps me remember why I enjoy this pastime.
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Jon S, If I understand you correctly you are suggesting no second series serial number (HAL over pistols) has been found below 200?? My data base lowest is #293.
The highest serial number gun on my data base is #2472, an almost 9 pound Diamond Quality model 275 ejector gun with 32" barrels. If what you are suggesting is true (no reason to doubt it) that might have been among the last of the SxS.
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Canvasback, Yup, I believe that if you find a Lindner made gun with a serial # of less than 200 it will be a large Damascus barreled hammergun made in the early 1870's. I'm told that someone on this forum reported #243 several years. We would have to see the gun to assign a year to it.
With respect to #2472, I actually own that gun and a magnificent beast it is! Amazing engraving. The latest number of a gun that I own is #2517, a SBT Diamond Sextuplet. Nobody knows the number of the last Lindner made but I would wager it is a SBT put together from parts during the war or shortly there after. I have seen (but stupidly did not record) a Daly SBT with HAL over crossed pistols with a 26xx serial number PLUS another 5 digit #! Sauer? Schiller?
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