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I like all the points of discussion and craig's last about clarification seems justified. Tocqueville, Madison and the others weren't activists. They knew not to upset privileged positions. They knew all about amendments---14th and 15th with far more clarity than the 2nd, which has allowed lower jurisdictions to challenge it successfully should they decide to. Trudeau is musing turning federal gun reform from exclusively federal to municipalities.

What surprises me is not hearing much of minorities overturning majorities. I reported here last year that I couldn't find a pulse in shooting organizations about looming gun control, from gun clubs, gun shops, even from my die-hard conservative friends with whom I hunt regularly. In a democratic system, everything should be possible.

Here's an example. Some politically powerful recreationally groups democratically took over our province's Land Resources Coordinating Committee. Legislation permitting access of motor vehicles to all private lands without the owners' permission was at the Queen's Printer. City folk who liked to return home on weekends with mud-splattered vehicles were in heaven. They had more rights than those who paid taxes on their lands. And more votes.

Landowners didn't have to organize for this one. Or petition. Or write letters to legislators who allowed it to happen. It took only a half-dozen phone calls to the right people; first to the Girl Guides and Boy Scouts. "Do you want unannounced leather-jacket crowds at your summer camps?" Then to head of the provincial campgrounds association with similar message, then to the forest community: "Are we letting them run wild in ATVs over our managed lands?"

It took one week at no cost to turn an aroused rural minority into a majority. Government caved; it couldn't stand the heat from urban and rural concerned with social justice. Should the AR lobby want to keep their guns, they need to want them more than those who oppose them. I've seen no sign of it. I'm not getting my knickers in a knot over it.

The bumper crop of pure horse shit in King's last post reminds me of how an ancient old Apple tree will sometimes produce one last large crop at the end of it's life.

Look at his moronic and dishonest statement comparing the 14th and 15th Amendments to the 2nd Amendment concerning "clarity".

This is a common ploy used by anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats, who say that the original intent of the Framers was unclear when they wrote the perfectly clear and simple words that protect and guarantee that THE RIGHT of the PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. They also explicitly defined the Militia, and the intent was equally clear that this right to bear arms for self and common defense had nothing to do with what firearms may be deemed appropriate to hunt deer or ducks.

King pretends that the 2nd Amendment permits or allows lower courts to infringe upon our gun rights, and to subvert the freedom of law abiding citizens. Nothing could be further from the truth, and King obviously continues his denial of two landmark U. S. Supreme Court decisions that overturned many of those unconstitutional infringements.

The Heller decision was made by a 5 to 4 margin in 2008. The McDonald decision was made by a 5 to 4 margin in 2010. Both cases are settled law, and in both cases, the 4 justices who voted to deny our Individual 2nd Amendment Rights were nominated by Liberal Left Democrats. It matters a great deal who gets a seat on the Supreme Court. A vote for a Democrat Presidential candidate is a vote to erode or eliminate our gun rights.

Most importantly, King intentionally neglects to tell us that virtually all of those lower court infringements, and nearly all of the unconstitutional anti-gun legislation has come directly from the Liberal Left Democrats and anti-2nd Amendment politicians that he and rocky mtn bill support.

King also acts as if there is little or no opposition to the recent Canadian anti-gun laws. But a quick Google search is all it takes to show that is simply another of King's many lies. This is a fraud and Troll who lies as easily and often as most men breathe.

It is high time that legitimate gun owners and shooters understand that not everyone who owns a gun, or speaks enough bullshit, is our friend. Guys like King and rocky mtn bill are the enemy who help to ensure that your children and grandchildren will not have a 2nd Amendment Right. And it's a real shame that there are not more guys here with the guts to stand up and put them in their place.

If you have a maniac with a gun, that is the problem, bill, not the gun. When you assume everyone is a maniac, that is called projection, a fairly serious mental issue, actually, but, a good therapist can help you get over it.

Best,
Ted

Probably right when your buddy got to the part where you sign your remaining soul over to Satan in order to complete the spook training. Yea, this sucks, I quit.

It takes special people to be spooks.

Best,
Ted

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Or, Terminators. 30 years and you get the watch, a cake, and shown the door.

I dunno Ted, Bill is old school. He'd probably ask his friends for a referral to their 'therapist'. Firstbreak through is focus on the pansies and implant some latent feelings. Within a couple of weeks, he'll be wearing a big tropical sun hat, gussied up like the toppings on a bespoke mai tai. Next breakthrough, he'll start up here about how the world shrink organization is anti AR.

I specifically asked that you not wretch a hairball for us to consume.

Fat chance. The use of terms like activism and social justice in your reply clearly demonstrate the notion that you are trying to justify your contempt for those that have differing viewpoints then your own. I would expect you would be able, at this point in life, to simply man up and spit out an opinion that was your own, and based on some sort of facts, related to the discussion.

My expectation would be wrong, however.

Best,
Ted

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The drilled and welded Francotte side lock tells it all, King.

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=571593#Post571593

Is the individual right to defend self and loved ones not germane to this thread? Can such a natural right be unduly restricted by regulations?

Yes, as far as I can tell that particular right is the crux of the entire gun control issue...Geo

Sometimes we assume too much:

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/20985-self-defense-in-the-uk-is-illegal

Throughout history, it appears any notion of rights that one might have in England, the UK and the other places where the crown is held in higher esteem than a citizen would be, depends entirely on your position of birth. Subjects have little in the way of actual rights.

Best,
Ted

What? You think you don't have your own form of royalty that gets special privileges? The only difference in America is the inheritance is money and political status, not blood.

"Hi officer, my name is Ted Kennedy. What seems to be the problem? Chappa what? Hmmm not familiar with that bridge. "