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Maybe when I get old, Ill shoot a deer. Deer hunting was one of my Dads passions, and, I have two deer rifles around the place, a Marlin 336 in 30-30, and a Ruger carbine in .44 magnum. I shot the Ruger one time, one round, when I was 18 or so. Never fired the Marlin.
Dad got a big deer with the Ruger. He wasnt far from the end of his deer hunting career when Mom, my brother and I bought it for him. I would use Moms Irish Setter to hunt grouse when Dad went north.
Hope you are back to work soon Lloyd.
Well then, Ted. I think you should probably just sell that little Ruger carbine to me to relieve you of the worries of which one to shoot a deer with and when to do so!!
Best,
Ted Perry, Sorry, I cant. My Mother, brother and myself conspired to buy him that gun in about 1981, when he started complaining about how heavy his Remington 742 was at the end of the day-it is heavy. Brother has that gun, but, his disability will likely keep him from ever using it. The Ruger was about the only Christmas present I ever gave Dad that really caught him off guard, and very pleasantly surprised Dad. These are not rare guns, but parts for them are. I have an old Shooters Bible article that has a couple suggestions to keep the carbine running. The article advised that no such tricks were needed for the companion 10-22. You should be able to turn a Ruger carbine up fairly easily if you really want one. Best, Ted
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I just can't get warmed up to the AR platform, swapped it for a M-14 and a Stevens pump in Vietnam. I won a custom built AR in 20 Practical in a shooting match, this thing had everything done to and would shoot in the .3's with good handloads. On a coyote stand it is awkward. This past season I swapped out the 20" 20P barrel to a 16" 223 and it handles better and while not quite as accurate, it shoots about an inch reliably and is plenty good for coyotes out to 300 yards. I am spending time out on the desert shooting targets with it from field positions to get used to it. As it is now, 223, w/Burris 1.5-6x40mm  As I won it 20 Practical, Alpen 1.5-6x40mm scope for coyotes and a 6-18 scope for small stuff  Way better 222 Rem, 1-4x20mm Leupold.  In some terrain even better 16/16/6.5x58R Leupold 1-4x20mm 
Last edited by oskar; 05/12/20 09:07 AM.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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The talk of accuracy in AR rifles is interesting. I just acquired my own "platform", a Sig MP400. It shoots like crap. 6-8" groups at 100 yds. And with one magazine, it doubled or tripled 4 times. The other 3 mags that I shot did not. It seems to have all the precision of construction that would would expect in a box spring mattress which is what it reminds me of when listening to all the springs and vibrations humming with each shot.
I think its popularity is a function of 1. the entertainment industry, 2. familiarity for all ex military and LEO, and 3. it appears "high tech, modern" whether it is or not. A Sig should shoot better than that unless you are using crappy steel case ammo or ammo not suited to the barrel's twist rate. As to the noise, that is typical of the AR-15/M-16 platform. It's popular because it is fairly easy to shoot, normally fairly accurate out of the box and modular, so you can do all sorts of things to the gun or set up multiple uppers in different calibers and configurations. I don't find them easy to shoot accurately, that is for sure. But in any case, I was using decent quality handloads made by the original owner, my father-in-law. The gun has been used very little. The twist is 1/7 I believe. The barrel is stamped 5.56 1/7. I'll have to find some other ammo to try but my shotguns shoot better than this thing.
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I titled this thread "follies" for a number of reasons and the fact that it's on a double-gun webpage is probably the biggest, but I had more unexpected challenges today at the range. My match-grade ammo source has evidently dried up so I'd switched to another. Things started out all right but then began to devolve.. Thankfully, I discovered the loose scope rail mount before expending too-many shells. I suppose that this would also be a good time to investigate some handloading options again. I've sort-of fallen away from that process of late, only setting up to load a pet load for my elk rifle when shells run low. I likely already have most everything I need (I used to load .30-06 many years ago) except for some dies.
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