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Mr. Schuknecht gives the GM was the inventor of the Beast - >>Clamshell / Muschel-Verschluss / Stabil-Verschluss Action <<(If I read it correctly)? >>The next to last guns shown in the photo gallery in our archive is a double rifle made by the Heym Company in Suhl.The guns with the Clamshell Action (Muschel Verschluss or Stabil Verschluss) could have been made by several makers, among them Robert Schüler (RS) in Suhl, the inventor, Gebrüder Merkel (GM) in Suhl, Oskar Merkel in Suhl (Merco) and Bernhard Merkel in Suhl (Bemesu). All were of best quality and some had the makers mark that is shown above after their name on the underside of the barrels.Foerster guns are now very desirable to gun collectors and bring very high prices when sold by good auctioneers like Julia in Maine.<< http://www.germanhuntingguns.com/about-the-makers/gun-makers-dealers-f-j/scroll down to Foerster..... Cheers, Raimey rse
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Somewhat similar to a Greener except they come in from both sides. I would have to dig, but I believe that is some variant of the novel addition by Frederick J. Abby which found protection under U.S. of A. Patent Nr. 114,081 of 1871. I think even Greener commented that Rigby adopted and improved the contrivance or George Thackeray Abbey's contribution which found protection under U.S. of A. Patent Nr. 87,814 of 1869? Per the website, are we sure that the adornment is that of Kornbrath? With the menacing muzzle / crosshatching of the muzzle, I'd say that that adornment points to a mechanic in Suhl? Cheers, Raimey rse
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Last edited by Daryl Hallquist; 01/31/20 09:38 AM.
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Lovely post Mr. Hallquist. Many thanks for indulging me. Any comment on the Kornbrath engraving?
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Also with those >>Cat Eyes<<, I would hazard a guess that the ejectors are of the Deeley Box platform. All wrapped up, this may point to some involvement by the remnants of Schoverling, Daly & Gales in the sourcing for Flues?
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Raimey, the engraving, although I cannot say for sure, looks like something Kornbrath would do. I do believe other Flues guns have been attributed to Kornbrath, and I think the Kornbrath files in Cody show some Flues guns.
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Well, has anyone seen Kornbrath work where he added crosshatching to a muzzle? Is anyone of the opinion that Kornbrath performed the tap, tap, tap on this muzzle?
I have serious reservations that Kornbrath added that to a longarm/ w/ an English stock sold in the U.S. of A.?
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SKB, I think it's Kersten, ( not that I give a toss but I have seen them on German guns, , I thought some had rectangular through bolts, but I think now it's just the shape of the protruding bolts that is rectangular, & not the "Hole", cheers franc
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Although for the moment I'm not hung on any certain bolting system, but look how wide those side bars are in the Doll's Head Well and there doesn't appear to be a pathway for them to move left or right? Does the top rib extension have a portal thru it? And too, look @ that large radius @ the standing breech - water-table interface. Below that is a lot of >>Banjo Work<< that accomplishes something. Last there are those circular protrusions below the strikers?
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I believe you are correct. Looks as those those locking bars move vertically. I failed to notice that earlier. I too wonder about the circles on the breech. That would be an interesting gun to disassemble. Steve
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