I agree with Stan that the Iver Johnson is a great trap gun, but the spring operated extractor/ejector is a bit of a problem with tight shells, kind of like the Winchester Model 37. If the shell is tight and the spring is not enough to dislodge the shell, you are out of business until you get a ramrod. Both are unacceptable for competition. My old Iver Johnson is the one pictured in Frank Conley's book. Foolishly I sold it. Your friend, Bill Murphy from MD.