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It is one example of many, but did you notice that yesterday ny governor cuomo said that it was unfortunate that a covid vaccine is coming out two months early because the Trump administration will be credited with distributing it? How many American lives would be lost by people such as yourself wanting to play politics with a two month delay on a ninety plus percent effective vaccine?

Did President Trump have pelosi's luxury of saying, if you want to read what's in the aca, you have to pass it? Was it the very same nancy that was responsible for blocking legislative changes to law that could have fixed problems with the aca? As you know the obama/biden administration tried to fix the rushed through law with many more than a hundred executive actions?

How could time have been set aside for changing the US Constitution to add the right of health care, when pelosi set aside three of the less than last four years to battle an existential threat to our democracy? Back to the corona virus vaccine, even fauci said he trusts the Pfizer scientists and the FDA, does that make him your enemy?

What I don�t grasp is why so many liberals can�t grasp that your �rights� end at the point someone gives something up for you. Being free to buy a health insurance policy is different then being forced into a system that forces others to pay for it.

There is no constitutional provision for health care being a right, and it being a right for others to pay for it for you.

Best,
Ted

Great response Ted. But rocky mtn bill and ClapperZapper simply aren't interested in reality or the truth.

I've asked Billy numerous times to explain why the so-called universal coverage of ObamaCare left 38 MILLION PEOPLE without coverage.

I've asked Billy numerous times to explain Obama's promise to reduce costs, when we actually saw massive double digit percentage cost increases. Your true story of the huge costs and huge deductibles for sub-standard coverage mirrors the stories of many people I know who lost employer paid coverage, and were forced to buy garbage they could barely afford... and then couldn't afford to use it anyway because of the deductibles and co-pays.

I'm glad Billy mentioned making health care a national right. There is a LEGAL PROCESS to do that called a Constitutional Amendment. Remember, John Roberts and the Liberal wing slipped ObamaCare through by determining that it was a tax. So much for Obama's promise to not raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year.

I'm also glad that ClapperZapper mentioned that being a Catholic demands social justice. Well, it also demands respect for unborn babies, but we obviously see him supporting those who legalized abortion, and even force taxpayers to fund the killing of babies.

I lost my job and my health care benefits in 2015 when oil prices collapsed. I did not expect ClapperZapper, rocky mtn bill, or the transgender idiot nca225 to bail me out by paying higher taxes. I went out and got a better job with benefits... just like I have done several other times when my job got outsourced or offshored due to the insane trade deals that Trump was finally fixing.

I support helping the truly disabled, but I do not support forcing taxpayers to support able-bodied people who refuse to take advantage of existing public-funded education opportunities and are too lazy to look for work. They should be doing the work that illegals from Central America and Mexico travel thousands of miles to do. I do not see how it is cold-hearted or un-Christian to feel that way. But it is a form of slavery and theft to expect me to work many hours of my finite life to pay tax dollars to support lazy leeches.

Ask me about a 35 year old girl I know who was forced out of her job because she has frequent grand-mal epileptic seizures, and was denied unemployment benefits. In addition, she has been shot down several times for Social Security Disability because the judge determines she can still work... even though she is not allowed to have a driver's license and is prone to frequent severe seizures that have left her with a lacerated tongue and broken bones. Many of her seizures happen in the shower or bathroom for some reason, and there are hard porcelain objects to crash down into. Then ask me about her step-brother who gets full Social Security Disability because he is a heroin addict who is too damn lazy and irresponsible to work. Then ask me about a former co-worker who also got full Social Security Disability because he allowed himself to get too damn fat to do anything.

We have lots of problems. Biggest problem is that Liberal Democrats always seem to make things worse and more expensive. And that doesn't even touch on their Unconstitutional infringements upon the 2nd Amendment Rights of law abiding citizens... which is about as close as this off-topic Thread will get to the subject of guns.

Is it time for censorship yet?

Talk about censorship...

Under a Donald Trump advertisement/thread on FacebOOk....

Donald Trump was talking about how they had the goods on the people that were behind all the cheating in this election....

I replied "Hang'um high".

Within seconds my screen flashed red...and I was reading "You have been banned for 30 days"

Who gives a dang...I just went and deleted my Facebook account.

Screw them Socialist/Nazi/Fascists censors.

Everyone who has had enough of Facebook and Twitter censorship should check out Parler. In partnership with Dan Bongino, it is a new social media site that does not censor based upon political affiliation. It had so many new members, that are leaving the other two I mentioned, that it temporarily crashed a couple days ago. I predict it will become a force to be reckoned with, because instead of stepping on the rights of free people it upholds them.

https://parler.com/auth/access

SRH

Ted & Keith: Republicans always talk a good game about our rights, but they're strangely silent about responsibilities. In my book there are no rights that don't entail obligations. Republicans also have lost entirely any concept of the common good. They actively work for a society where it's every man for himself, where each us us is free to do whatever we please and never mind the consequences. In an over-crowded world, we have long since passed the point where we can pretend we have no sacrifice to make even as a simple reqiurement of survival, let alone the need to promote the health and well-being of all citizens. PS: Craig your vicious comment about INdian health service is a racist low point for you. Maybe you forgot that reservations aren't centers of advanced medical treatment. If Gramma has to travel from Wolf Point to Billings for chemo- therapy, let her take the Greyhound, right? What a sorry, pissant resentment.

It always boils down to taxes. Oh you poor victims having to keep up your part of the social contract.

I think a good trade off is that if an individual doesn't not want to pay 100% percent of their tax responsibility then why should that individual get the benefit of the protections that those taxes pay for? If your in it for yourself, then you go by yourself. How's that for a solution?

If we follow the science, there is clear proof of an exodus from the stifling taxes of dem strong holds to kinder more tolerant parts of America. Maybe, you continue to deflect from the real issues that every day Americans are concerned with?

Craig, it's way past time every day Americans wake up and realize they've been brain-washed into supporting a party that has no real interest in their well being but wants their votes in order to grease the wheels of the rich and comfortable. The notion of small government and low taxes is simply a refusal to face facts. But then there are always alternative facts, another novel concept from your party of choice. As for folowing science, that's not a Democrat failure. Tell you dear leader to follow science.

Are you implying people who post here don't pay their tax obligation?

Or, that you think it should be more?

Swing, and a miss.

Best,
Ted