Buzz,
Most of my grouse hunting is a stroll in the woods. Yes, they get moving quickly, but, I have a setter that mostly points the birds I get a shot at. I work the edges, breaks and fire roads, and dont find it to be much of a struggle.

The pheasants live in tangles of Minnesota WMAs, areas that were unfit for farming in the southern part of the state. Invariably, they are wet, and brushy, and tough to work properly. The birds concentrate in them after the corn is put up, they receive a lot of hunting pressure, and turn into ghosts this time of year, you catch glimpses of them exiting out of range, wise to the game.

My pheasant hunting is the more difficult of the two for me.

I love them both.

Best,
Ted