cb, now you are making stuff up. Of course the Russians were involved in helping Trump win in '16. That's not debatable (except by surrealists). Whether Trump had anything to do with it, is open for debate, but not the fact that they were doing more than crossing their fingers that Trump would win.

And then there is the current election. Again, you know, we all know, it was won straight up. There are no creditable statistical or other evidence to the contrary. Let's just get over that one and move on.

You don't want to be the very thing you are labeling others. If you keep up that charade, you are.

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