" ... I guess I am a naysayer. ... "
" ... I still dont believe this is a cape gun. If anyone has evidence otherwise, Id love to see it. ... "
" ... And, I still believe that, at best, it a compromise gun, built for someone who has little choice in what he can own and carry. ..."
" ... At 25 yards, I own shotguns that will pattern buckshot or slug groups that will be superior to the slug pattern shown for hunting big game at that range, out of standard bores and chokes. At 25 yards a lot of shotguns will print better results than what you have shown, above. But, Id still prefer to be armed with a high powered rifle over either, as a deer at 25 yards distance from a human isnt usually there very long. Americans are blessed in that they can own either, and make a conscious decision about what they are going to hunt that day. The combination gun thing appeals to few, here. Perhaps you can work that 6 or so group, at 25 yards, down, using a light gun with a single bead sight. ..."
" ...If that was my game (it isnt ) I have half a dozen better, simpler, and easier options on hand. Just for giggles, you could try running three rifled slugs through the other barrel, and post the results. I would not be the least surprised if it actually works very well, or, even better than what you have shown.
Glad it works, hope it works well for you. ..."
Best,
Ted
Hello Ted Schefelbein,
Thannks for the reply.
I guess I can only agree with your first sentence. You "are" a nay-sayer.
As to not believing this is a Cape Gun, and wanting to see evidence otherwise, you might try reading a dictionary ... "
Cape Gun, noun phrase, Origin, English, A type of double-barrelled firearm, usually with one barrel smooth-bored and the other rifled"... and given that simple definition, it is not my intention to recruit you to agree.
Whether you call this a Cape Gun, or a Combination Gun, or a Ball & Shotgun, or a Shotgun with one rifled barrel, or whatever wiggles-your-wang, my OP was simply to learn about the proof marks - to which you have contributed absolutely nothing.
As for my 25 yard target tests, this distance was merely a starting point for testing - not intended to define a hunting range, nor to recommend the gun for such. If the deep snow at our Gun Club would have been plowed out to the 50 yard range, I'd have started testing at that distance.
As to your comment; "The combination gun thing appeals to few, here" - maybe not to you. Perhaps for this reason you should have kept your "expert" thoughts to yourself and posted elsewhere. The heading to this Forum includes "...to discuss your doubles, drillings,
combination guns..." Also, every Gun Forum on the internet has a section on Combination Guns, with thousands of posts about them, and the collecting of them. These like other firearms are an interesting piece of History to many, of a time when such guns were actually used. So I guess this combination gun thing DOES appeal to more than a few. A simple search will reveal that I have posted about several of my Cape Guns, and Paradox Guns, and Shot & Ball Guns, and many, many have found them appealing.
Others who have followed my many posts on various Gun Forums know my background is in Analytical R&D Engineering. This quest for knowledge has spilled into my firearms interests, which leads me to the testing of Historical Firearms, and the documentation of the results, for myself and for others who may have interest.
So far, you've referenced some of your experiences, lets see your data! Lets see your targets. Lets see the loads that you have developed. Lets see something, anything, besides your written opinions. I searched your posts and found 298 pages, but no real data.
I want thank all those others who have given me interesting information about this gun. I truly appreciate it. I'll post continuing results of my testing soon.
As for your having "have half a dozen better, simpler, and easier options on hand" ... so do I.
