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So many guns, so little time!
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All that does is increase the number in the broken pile.
Out there doing it best I can.
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I'm using a Winchester Model 21. Time will tell how well it will fare.
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bss is a popular gun among clays shooters...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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For what you will pay I would buy box locks. In fact I’d buy about ten of them for far less money than one single round action would cost. Shoot until they break and just pickup the next one. But I would also setup a reloaded for 2 1/2” 1 ounce loads and shoot what was intended to be shot in the gun. If I wanted to shoot 7/8 ounce loads I’d get a 20.
For sheer pleasure I’d buy the round action. Tried to buy a 16 ga. Round action, with a skeleton receiver but the price just skyrocketed. I dropped out at 14,000 pounds. It sold for 20,000 pounds plus commissions. I still regret giving up and don’t know if I would have, if it were a 12, instead of a 16. One of only three made so I will most likely never see another one for sale.
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I wouldn't focus on the name as much as the gun itself. My irregular clays gun (not shooting much) is a 1904 Tolley that was rebarreled likely in the 30's or 40's. The barrels have 35 thousandths of minimum wall thickness and were made with 2 3/4 chambers. I think I could put upwards of 10K 7/8 oz Fiocchi's through this without any issues. Not much of a game gun with those heavy barrels, but great for clays.
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Just my personal experience. My main clays gun for over 25 years was a Greener mid grade gun. It is a 7 3/4 lb. gun. I used one ounce loads and the only failure was the top lever spring. I made a new top lever spring and it's been holding up for about 15 years. I did remove the ejector works as I believe the ejector mechanism was a probable weak point. I can switch the ejector works in or out in about 10 minutes as needed.
I did just recently switch to a heavy barreled Fox. Number one weight barrels and weighing again 7 3/4 lbs. I switched guns just to shoot something different and so far so good.
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have arthritic shoulder...
doublegun solution is a custom made 28 ga ithaca classic doubles, with heavy barrels, that weighs eight pounds...
can shoot 25 rounds of one ounce loads, wid out pain...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Frequency of repair, and cost of repair, aren’t the same thing.
Having ruined more than a dozen basic shooter class shotguns shooting clay sports over the last 25 years, I would say, a decent box lock with longer barrels like maybe a BSS, it’s about as good as you can do.
Myself, I have grown tired of sending guns off to be repaired.
Here in the United States, having a gun re-jointed is many times more expensive than it is in the UK, so, it’s a much bigger deal when your gun starts to get loose.
The browning side-by-side’s, truly are a great shotgun for the clay sports. Or perhaps Ithaca SKB, if you like something a bit lighter. They're hard to find with 30" barrels, but they did make a Model 100 Magnum with factory recoil pad and 30" barrels. In both cases (Ithaca SKB or BSS), you'll pay a premium for the 30" barrels. Stick with 1 ounce loads at modest velocity (or even 7/8 oz for closer targets) and you can likely put a lot of shells through either without needing to have the gun rejointed.
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Amazing question, two weeks ago I shot a round of clays with my Dickson round action and shot my Purdey yesterday. With that said my go to side by side to shoot is my Garbi Model 100 with 29 1/2" barrels. I agree that if you continually shoot an English Best gun eventually something will break. I have an Atkin spring opener and broke a left cocking spring. Try getting that fixed here in the US. I know of only three places that will undertake that job. But I had a friend who shot his 1909 Purdey weekly at clays putting at least 100 rounds through it each week. Till he finally broke a spring inside the lock. Now he just shoots it on special ocasion.
Mike Proctor
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