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So indeed a Westley Richards Doll's Head Extension Toplever????


Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Might have anyone seen this type >>tab<< prior; even on a WR? Is it a stop?


Serbus,

Raimey
rse

I gave my rusty old barrel a vinegar bath over night and sanded it with 320 and 400 grit sandpaper. I then put a coat of Oxpho blue on the barrels and buffed off the top coat off with 600 grit sandpaper till the only bluing that was left was in the domascus lines. I then wiped it down with Lind seed oil. You should have seen all the rust that came off of the barrels when I wet sanded it after an hour of soaking in vinegar. I used a 4’ 3” PVC tube caped off on one end for the vinegar bath. I think it turned out nice. You can see the domascus pattern clearly now with all the dark blotchy rust spots removed. Sure looks a lot better to me!




A faux case hardened the receiver with Oxpho blue...




Before....after I cleaned and polished the solid rusted receiver, had new hammers installed, but left the barrel as is.




I’m stripping the wood as we speak and steaming out dents.

I removed 99.9% of the dings, scratches, and dents. I am on coat #4 of BLO. It’s starting to darken back up. It’s no where near perfect but looks a million times better then before IMO. There were a few deep scratches and dings I couldn’t remove but feel completely smooth to the touch now. I like have a dew imperfections left in the wood so it still looks old and vintage. I filled in the deep gouge marks that someone probably made with a screw driver to remove the side plates at one time. Figured a few dark scratch marks left in it would give it some character. I removed some of fake case hardening look I made with Oxpho blue on the receiver as well. Any idea what kind of wood this is? This is bad picture and doesn't do the wood justice. The long dark marks running up and down the butt stock reminds me of tiger maple.

Well, it’s been a few years since I’ve been on here and posted. I didn’t even remember I was a member here sorry….lol.

Here’s an update from the following season the first day I took it out in the woods. I shot a double bearded gobbler with a hand load. I used a cut down modern hull. Used 100 grains of FG, a 1/2” pressure wad, 1 5/8 oz of BPI nickel plated shot, and roll crimped with an OS card.









It definitely got the job done. I’m gonna go through and modify my proven load and add a plastic shot cup in the mix with some buffer and see if it helps out with tightening patterns.

One more picture I forgot to post instead of adding it to above. I figured I would just tack it on. After I rubbed it down with boiled linseed oil, a bunch of times to get it soaked really good I added quite a few coats of minwax antique finish. Gave it a nice satin finish. Wanted some type of protection over the top of it.

So here’s something new after all these years.




I just watched a YouTube video talking about a double gun and showing marks on it. Obviously there’s not enough marking on mine really tell me much. The YouTuber was talking about his 28 gauge that had a “28-70” stampeded on the receiver. He said the 70 was mm and the equivalent in inches was 2 3/4 inches for shells. Well, I have a number 65 stamped on my underside of my barrels which if I went by this logic it would tell me it’s a 2.5 inch chamber and not a 2 7/8” chamber??? Back in the 90s. I had a gun Smith measure my chamber and told me it was 2 7/8” 10 gauge. I have shot RST shells 2 7/8” in it with no problems. Drops right into the chamber and shuts fine. Wondering if maybe somebody had it bored out to 2 7/8” or if there’s just enough free play in the chamber that they fit???? Does this make sense to anybody here that can chime in and tell me if that’s what the 65 stands for? Actually 65 mm is equivalent to 2.55906” so I’m guessing a 2.5” chamber…with a lot of free bore since 2 7/8” shells fit and fire with out issues. When I do my hand loads and roll crimp them I know they’re even shorter than 2.58 inches. Most of my hand loads are 2.58 to 2 1/2. I’ve shot a few boxes of RST shells through them that are 2 7/8 with zero issues so I’m kind of confused with that stamping now.

That wood really came out beautiful! Great job getting all those dents and dings out . And you did a fantastic job on the rest of the gun. Amazing talent!

I need to find another project gun now.

Well, I learned something new the last couple of days with that number 65 stamped on the barrel saying it’s the chamber length! Decades ago I had the chamber measured by a gunsmith in town that told me it was a 2 7/8 inch 10 gauge chamber. A 2 7/8 inch RST shell drops right in the chamber and I’ve shot probably 30 of them without issue. After seeing that number 65 and listening to a YouTuber saying that’s the millimeter measurement in chamber size made me scratch my head because that comes out to 2.559 inches. I measured to the forcing cone today several times and came up with 2.775” on average. Well, I would assume that is with a 2 5/8 inch hole or 2 1/2 inch hole unfolded??? Explains why I never got a good pattern with the three boxes of two and 7/8 inch shells. It taught me how to get into 10 gauge shotgun reloading anyways because I’ve used those holes several times and they’re cut down probably a half inch shorter so they never came close to the forcing cones with my roll crimping. I have basically 2 boxes total of impossible to find 2 7/8” lead #5’s and #6’s. Thirteen 5’s and 6 #6’s. I sure would hate to tear those things down and just to reload them. I’m probably better off selling them out right or horse trading them for ammo I can use.