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PJ, your ejector Sterlingworth is the cream of the crop of the much loved field grades. No gun was better in it's time.

LG:

How does someone with only "nailfile and dental floss in their toolkit" go about vetting for originality and condition? Most guys got at least a bore mike which will measure up a few priorities and also detect those pits midway while you're draggin it out of the bore. W/T gauge can be useful also. As for letters, you can buy Callahan letters for thousands of "white" Fox guns. You guys been pickin on Bob again and now he'll never tell us more about Emil Flues.

jack

You need the following tools: QUALITY magnifying glass, compact 3-piece cleaning rod with attachments (some lazzzzzy folks don't bother to wipe the bore clean ), choke gauge, chamber gauge, fiberoptic bore light, snap caps, and the knowledge of how too determine concentricity and uniformity of bore channel by looking down the barrels.
Who bothers to get factory letter for "shiny actioned" Fox gun.
PS. I found $1.50 AirAce 5 Spray Gun Cleaning Brushes from BigLots much superior to dental pics and floss!

I've heard you can determine straitness by the the reflections inside. Clearly, a low-angle view down the outside will tell you how well they're faired in the filing. I'd need a crystal ball to determine "concentricity" of bore channel (presumably meaning consistent wall thickness radially) without a w/t gauge and I doubt if I could look down a bore and tell you it's a consistent diameter all the way down. But I ain't Superman

jack

I do the best I can kindly ol' Rabbit!
Things have changed with the guns behind the kitchen door - have gone a little modern these days.
Lots of different seasons ahead up at the Woods, and I want to make the most of all of them...need to make room for deer and varmint time - so some old things have gone their merry way.
New is good, old not so good sometimes.
Need to be well rounded in the hood and a few too many shotguns only look good in the cabinet.

Yes, a nice Beretta self-feeder is twice the gun but not double. I understand.

jack

So how'd you do in the Vintagers shoot ?...I'm still trying to figure out what fell off your gun.

"shots at the RC"...you guys shooting at remote controlled airplanes ?

Let's just say I'm a 50% shooter at SC, Joe. That means 26X50 and maybe 53X100. Oddly, I have done better scorewise with a damascus Lefever and 7/8 oz but that was at Millbrook and maybe a higher % of skeety crossers and no so many floaters there. Apparently I can shoot that stupid teal directly overhead but not at forty yrds as I didn't hit a one of them. Blowing that short ramp off the Flues didn't help my concentration a bit. Check out p. 317 of Walt S.'s Ithaca Gun Co. From the Beginning for pictures of the swamped rib Flues barrels. Walt refers to the "ramps" at muzzle and breech as "nubbins of a rib" but of course the barrels do have an upper rib which is continuous and the "nubbins" are applied over it. Oddly the upper photo suggests to me that the gun shown may also have lost the rear bit as all I see is the rib extension. Anyway, both of these "ramps" are shaped to the concavity between barrels, file-cut matted on top; the rear piece notches around the extension and soldered in place. Very similar to the treatment on my Charlin. I found the piece over the rail in the swampy pond-edge on sta. 1. Had to backtrack as I did not notice it go missing immediately.

There was a four-man (100$ entry) shoot at a R/C airplane. My wife saw it; I didn't. All I saw was 175% prices and a dustbowl in the making.

jack

You're lucky you found it. If I had known they were shooting at RC airplanes I would've came...did they have a gauge restriction ?

Hard to dicker with 175 % pricing.

Robert,
Dont waste time, every club or group has a couple like Lowell who are extremely sad individuals that want to start something. He has posted way to many times on field grade guns, and his dislike for them, only to get someone to read his posts so he can feel important. I learned long ago, to leave them be, and they will hang themselves.