And since we're talking about Turk guns, why not this:

[Linked Image from jpgbox.com]

https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/me...cannon-the-bombard-that-built-an-empire/
Turkish super-canon (actually made by a Hungarian) which battered the triple walls of Constantinople on the May 29, 1453, the day the Roman Empire fell while Europe sat on its hands.

(Oh the Christian religious hatred of the period - the Roman emperor had converted to Catholicism - the Greek Orthodox inhabitants said, "Better the turban of a Turk, than the Mitre of a Pope." The Ottomans attacked the exact same spot of those walls, built by Theodor in the 400's AD, where they sink into a small valley giving plunging fire, that the 4th Crusade used to take over the city in 1205 (also a sack of the city by Catholics which led to a 70 year period of Catholic rule there).

I've been up on those walls and looked at it. History! and when Constantinople fell.Europe had a guilt trip..Moscow became in the Russian mind the third "Rome" of the Orthodox faith - Rome, Constantinople, Moscow.

Last edited by Argo44; 02/26/21 11:49 PM.

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