Murphy,Now there is a face to the 'Name"! If I had not had the 'Workload'(Pairs of Guns to be in Scotland, Gun to be in Tenn,for this week-end, et cetera,et cetera,) Would have enjoyed the meeting 'Of the Minds".Salopian sounds like he can 'Belly-up' to the Bar, as well he should..."Gunmaker" has a reputation to up-hold.....Business,I was mistaken about the Joseph P Knapp Gold Oval in Gun No.Four,It is a Parker .410b, but 'Alas&Alac, not aNother A1Special, a Lowly DHE.410b, but it does have the Knapp Cast Gold Oval! So now on the lookout for Oval No5.Would really like to hear that you have obtained the Sr No of the 'P' gun...and a poss. name of the 'Then' Owner..Congrats' to the Vintagers Organization for a Successful !st Shoot at the New Location. Crossedchisles aka DT.