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This could be detrimental to my Wallet, but he and I have the same initials
Just saying
Out there doing it best I can.
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Sometimes I get this wrong, but, I seem to recall this gun as having had a major problem that was repaired, leaving it not quite GT’s gun. Barrels? Sleeved? Restock?
I can’t remember. But, if it is anything I listed, above, especially sleeving, it isn’t worth the price being asked now, much less what was being asked, before.
Gough Thomas ordered this gun late in life, and, as he clearly explained, it was intended to be his last gun, and featured many compromises that would help to keep an old man (that he planned on being someday) in the game, so to speak. The length of the tubes and the weight of the gun, being the most obvious of those.
Nice gun. But, it was his nice gun.
Best,
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AG & L recently built some replicas of it which were £50k .Saw one at their shooting ground,looked a nice gun!!! The new Atkin GT gun being produced has 29" barrels and a tad over 7 lbs. New AGL. It is bespoke so I guess you could order it with 27" barrels and less weight. Ted, The gun at Holt's does not mention sleeved or thin barrels. Holt's generally lists those items. Holt's doesn't have bore measurements out yet. GT had an issue he didn't like with the gun on initial delivery and Atkin corrected the issues quickly. If you have more information, please post. Ken
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The gun has either been up for sale, or changed hands several times since GT's ownership. That may in itself be either people 'speculating' on a famous gun, or maybe the gun didn't meet their expectations?
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It's likely that the low estimate is not an "estimate of value" at all, but a ploy to get more bidders into the arena, to get the actual sale price higher, the same principle as penny auctions.
May God bless America and those who defend her.
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The gun was most recently at Bonham’s last winter where it had a 10-15k sterling estimate, but drew no bids. Bonhams. Nick Holt Released a video of himself examining the gun, however I cannot locate it at this point.
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"27” barrels don’t help it’s value. Funny thing is that 30 years ago short barrels were the rage and long barrels were very hard to move."
Bespoke gunmakers used to advise the client that barrel length should harmonise with his height. Some still do. A less diplomatic gunsmith I used to know put it more directly to a 5 foot 2 guy who wanted a 30 inch barrel A302 auto: "you are a stumpy little guy, with that gun you will look real funny".
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That is true.
In my own case, 32 inch barrels with a splinter forend in a side-by-side, unless it has a 15+ inch length of pull, looks stupid. Out of proportion.
My arms are short, so it starts to look like a garden rake.
Out there doing it best I can.
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This could be detrimental to my Wallet, but he and I have the same initials
Just saying Careful there, Grey Man. You're slipping again.
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