AZ Mike's comment about "extra shucking" refers to shooters who have never been taught how to use a Model 37. ChiefAmungun explains how it is done. AZ Mike, maybe you should "take the course" on Model 37s and learn how to load one. However, the Model 37 was never popular at the ATA shoots because of the different loading procedure and the shells on the ground under your feet. It is easy to catch empties with a Model 12 or 870, but impossible with the Ithaca. Graded Ithacas are extremely rare compared to Model 12s and are selling for very high prices when found in high condition with Knick ribs.