There seems to be some bias against Rugers on the part of the "fine guns" bunch. I inherited an early (blued frame) 20 gauge Red Label skeet gun with fixed chokes from my father-in-law, and bought my own Red Label 28 gauge. The 20 has nicer wood than any Beretta 686 or Citori Field that I have seen, and the 28 handles as well as any 28 gauge I own, including Beretta and Browning. The Red Label 12's tend to be heavy, but you can say the same thing about some Citoris and the BSS in 12 gauge. I'm actually thinking about giving my Citori 12 to my son and buying myself a Ruger for ducks. Some Rugers have been difficult to open, but taken care of under warranty. My Red Labels have been fine, and used ones tend to be a bargain.