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The Ruger Red Label seems like a lot of gun for the money. However, the fixed choke guns in like new condition rarely bring $800. Is there something about the Rugers that keeps this gun relatively depressed as compared to other like new O/U's and SxS's?
Thanks, Marc
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Possibly the original street price of a Ruger, which is less than Browning/Beretta guns has something to do with it.
There's also an underlying question on the handling/swing dynamics with RRLs. Not everybody thinks they handle like a 4x4, but IMO the barrels are overbuilt and feel that way. The one I had was a pretty good gun with nice wood and decent fit/finish. I bet the older fixed choke guns have some of the best fit/finish of the RRLs.
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There seems to be some bias against Rugers on the part of the "fine guns" bunch. I inherited an early (blued frame) 20 gauge Red Label skeet gun with fixed chokes from my father-in-law, and bought my own Red Label 28 gauge. The 20 has nicer wood than any Beretta 686 or Citori Field that I have seen, and the 28 handles as well as any 28 gauge I own, including Beretta and Browning. The Red Label 12's tend to be heavy, but you can say the same thing about some Citoris and the BSS in 12 gauge. I'm actually thinking about giving my Citori 12 to my son and buying myself a Ruger for ducks. Some Rugers have been difficult to open, but taken care of under warranty. My Red Labels have been fine, and used ones tend to be a bargain.
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I have a 12 (sporting clays version) and a 28,, i think the 28 is the best deal around in a o/u 28 great little bird gun. I agree the 12's are overbuilt, but the sporting clays model takes out alot of weight out of the barrels, I shoot it well on clays.
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I could pretty much say ditto to everything Yeti said. Rugers are OK guns but not on a par with the typical Browning Citori or Berettas. That's my opinion and one obviously shared by many of the knowledgeable, used gun-buying shooters.
> Jim Legg <
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The Rugers seem , to me anyway, to not balance well. They also seem to have MTBF issues.
Regards
GKT
Texas Declaration of Independence 1836 -The Indictment against the dictatorship, Para.16:"It has demanded us to deliver up our arms, which are essential to our defence, the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments."
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Hi My 2c worth. I personally am not a big fan of RRL, to me they tend to be a bit heavy and are not that well balanced. The biggest issue with them IMHO is the safety/selector...it stinks.
I fully agree with the others and like the Berettas much better, but then again..I'n a SxS man!
All the best!!
Greg
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the safety/selector...it stinks That's the way I feel about the Browning selector. I much prefer my RRL 28 to my Beretta 686 28.
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I have a 12 gauge for waterfowl, real heavy but it can shoot steel but if you're looking for a sweet little gun for upland birds buy their 28 gauge it handles better then any Red Label offered!! Its reasonably price AND its American built!!! All the best
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On selectors, my 682 Gold E's selector is a problem. It seems to move on it's own.
On Ruger Red Labels, I think they fill a price point market. I haven't been drawn to them, but can see why someone seeking that price point for a o/u might. We all can't afford Fabbri's (sp).
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