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Jager:

Yes, they're next to useless, me thinks. I use to be of the oppinion that 20G 3" @ 1-1/4 oz. shot was the equal of 12G 2-3/4 @ 1-1/4 oz. shot. My dad and I used the 20G 3" on North Dakota pass-shooting ducks with good results.

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I just picked up 22 boxes of paper hull shells from a yard sale, majority of these are 28ga & 410. I knew they are quiet old but since most are still in factory carton I thought they should at least go "bang" to use in birddog training, I never considered pressure could be an issue. I’m so glad I came across this topic.

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You'd do well selling those on one of the auction boards for ammo collectors. Shoot'em if you like, but I'd go for the money.

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I acquired a bunch of the roll-crimped Remington KleanBores when I found my Mod 1912 20 ga. Tried to shoot them at doves in my 686, and about half went "pop" instead of "bang." I'd try a few, but would be inclined to go for the cash at the next gun show in your area.

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IMO for whatever it's worth it primarily has to do with storage conditions. If the ammunition was stored in a cool dry location it will probably function well. Stored under hot or wet conditions and that's a whole other matter.
I have and continue to use 45ACP amunition headstamped from the WW I(1917) period and it functions well. I managed to acquire several thousand rounds several years ago. It's not target grade by any means but I can still get reasonable groups with it.
I have a lot of 30-06 and 8MM ammo vintage WW II that is still reliable and not prone to problems.
I have, on the other hand, run across lots of this ammunition that wern't reliable but were loaded in the 60s or 70s. All I can attribute this to is improper storage.
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I've shot some pretty old pistol and rifle ammo myself...I don't think it ages like shotgun ammo.

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Good point HJ and I wonder if others can expand on this??
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They are a legitimate collectors item. Go to wally world and buy some cheap shells to go pop and sell these to someone who will stroke them gently into the night. Jake


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A few years back a local gun shop owner died and when his sons cleaned out upstairs one of the things they found was about 70 or 80 cases of winchester paper shotshells all #4 and #6 shot and all 20 gauge.They put a mountain of them in the middle of the shop floor and sold them for 1.00 per box "no warranty expressed or implied"! I promptly bought 400 boxes and was 2 years shooting them up. All but a very few worked fine and the few that didnt were just weak.I might mention I didnt use these for hunting just for play clays.


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