Jager:

Yes, they're next to useless, me thinks. I use to be of the oppinion that 20G 3" @ 1-1/4 oz. shot was the equal of 12G 2-3/4 @ 1-1/4 oz. shot. My dad and I used the 20G 3" on North Dakota pass-shooting ducks with good results.

John

We're only responsible for the effort, not the outcome.