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Yesterday, at a PA auction, I didn't buy a great Krag single shot in "25-20 Remington". I have non buyer's remorse and would like to hear from the person who bought this interesting little small game rifle. It has target blocks, nice stocking, nice horn furniture, and probably weighs nine pounds. No maker's marking. I looked closely for Griffin and Howe stamps, but none were visible.
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Have to ask. What is a .25-20 Remington? Familiar with .25-20 WCF and .25-20 SS but not Remington. Thanks, Chuck
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Don't know. That is what was stamped on the gun. The possibility that it was a 25-20 single shot kept me out of the higher bidding. If I can't buy metallic cartridges by the box, I'm not interested. My loading room is all shotgun oriented these days. Again, I would like to hear from the lucky buyer, obviously a Pennsylvanian.
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The Remington Model 25 pump rifles in caliber 25-20WCF were simply marked '25-20'. Perhaps someone got the 25-20 Remington caliber idea from there.
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Of course, another chance of confusion along the way is the old use of 25-20 SS (Single Shot) and 25-20 R (Repeater). Someone sees 25-20 R and thinks Remington.
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I am more curious about the "singleshot" Krag. All Krags that I know are bolt rifles with magazines - rather remarkable magazines as a matter of fact. What is this singleshot like? Pictures?
Is this the Stevens 65, aka "Little Krag"? In .22 rf, it doesn't look overly safe, much less a .25-20 anything. Sounds interesting though.
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Brent:
Custom Krags were regularly converted to single shot, either because the particular cartridge design would not reliably feed from the magazine or because the use to which the rifle was to be put (a woodchuck gun, for example) didn't require a repeater. If the .25-20 is correct in either variation of the cartridge, I'd expect the former to be the reason the gun is a single shot.
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Brent:
Custom Krags were regularly converted to single shot, either because the particular cartridge design would not reliably feed from the magazine or because the use to which the rifle was to be put (a woodchuck gun, for example) didn't require a repeater. If the .25-20 is correct in either variation of the cartridge, I'd expect the former to be the reason the gun is a single shot.
Rem Thanks. I'd love to see some pictures. Sounds interesting to me. Some of those woodchuckers were pretty interesting rifles. And the rifle, for that purpose, is likely scoped. Side mount I would imagine. I am particularly interested in scoped Krags, of late.
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Most single shot Krags are stocked to cover the magazine area on the side of the receiver. Griffin and Howe made the most beautiful single shot Krags, but not many come to market. The rifle in question is equipped with target blocks, not a side mount. The only single shot Krags I have seen have been in small game or early varmint calibers.
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25-35(WCF) was a caliber I have read that Krag varmit rifle conversions were done up into. To further confuse things, could the rifle in question have been marked 25-35 Remington?
The 25-35 Remington marking actually represents the .25 Remington Autoloading Rifle (Model 8). Early on in it's production Remington marked the 25Remington caliber Model 8 guns as '25-35Remington'.
If the Krag was surely marked 25-20 Remington,,disregard!
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