8 pounds minimum, in a 12 ga. My comp gun weighs 9+.

With a Kick Killer lace on pad in place I have shot up to 1300 rounds of 7/8 oz. loads out of a Beretta 687 20 ga. SPII in one day, with no recoil issues. A bit of tenderness that evening but gone by shooting time the next morning, and again and again for 4 days.

Ed, you're full of crap about an 8 pound gun getting too heavy after 50 rounds. I'm a 70 year old, and not muscular, and I can shoot my 9 lb. plus Perazzi 100 rounds with no tiredness at all. None, Eddie, none. Nothing special about me, either. All my elderly shooting buds can do that, too. Maybe you shouldn't project your wimpiness on everybody else. That, or just keep quiet.


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