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And history of torching innocent guns and buyers?
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eight: to repeat, one buys an old (say, pre 1940) english made gun in the uk...it was proofed when made... ammo has changed over time...proof specs have changed over time...
suppose proof was never updated, as was example above, provided by tim...
seems like it would be a good idea to have it reproofed before export in order to minimize concern that it will be safe to shoot with modern u.s. made ammo...especially. if gun was purchased for resale...
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Most people who will buy an older, imported English gun grasp the fact that the guns have specific ammunition requirements. This is detailed in the markings on the flats. Even if proof specs change, that does not negate that the gun was proofed to a certain level, and ammunition that meets the requirements of that level of proof, should be used in that gun. Hint: Most American loaded ammunition is NOT intended to meet English shotgun requirements. Measuring the bores, chokes and chambers will show if someone, say, an unscrupulous US dealer, has had them tampered with, by excessive honing or boring, or otherwise changing the dimensions since the gun was proofed. Reproof, does not mean it is ready to run here in the states on promo loads from Wal-Mart.
Why do you have such a tough time grasping this, ed?
This isn’t that tough. Best, Ted
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ted, i view it this way...any old gun should be subject to concern about its safe shooting qualities...we address the issue here via visual inspection, barrel wall measurements and by selecting ammunition we believe to be safe for us to shoot...no doubt the same is done in the uk...plus, they have the added option to have old guns reproofed to their latest standard of safety, by a gubmint entity...
it would seem we should take advantage of the uk reproofing service for guns we plan to have imported into our country...because:
- reproofing to current uk specs would expand ammunition options here?
- in a competitive market a gun carrying the most up to date proofs would be more desirable than a gun last proofed 80 or more years ago?
still wondering how long it takes to have a gun reproofed and the cost...
and if reproofing an old gun does enhance its resale value, then would a london house reproofing be more adventageous, versus a birmingham house reproofing?
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So edd what about the guns you sell how many of them will be sent for reproof if the gun you sell is pre 1930 it wasnt ment for modern post 1935 ammo improvements do you know the exact barrel dimensions on any gun you sell that wasn't European proofed and so marked how many modern rounds were shot through each gun you sell you have zero idea and you don't care if a gun is in proof and is fed the proper ammo what the problem except your meds need to be adjusted
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apologies, for this hi e ner like creature, mc...it continues to troll and harry my posts here...this fine forum could certainly use some moderation...
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Ed is jealous of English made guns.
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Please give it a rest ed, and let us know how the proof testing goes for you. A minimum pressure test would be 1 and 1/2 times the pressure of your intended load. Entropy Engineering Corporation http://www.entropyec.com/services.html NTS Chesapeake (Belcamp, MD) | Ballistic & Materials Testing Lab https://nts.com/services/testing/ Dayton T. Brown https://www.dtb.com
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doc drew, me give it a rest? the jokers who have come on here and trashed this thread should give it a rest...
i still would like answers to my last four questions, re reproofing...
it would seem we should take advantage of the uk reproofing service for old guns we plan to have imported into our country...because:
- reproofing to current uk specs would expand ammunition options here?
- in a competitive market a gun carrying the most up to date proofs would be more desirable than a gun last proofed, say 80 or more years ago?
- still wondering how long it takes to have a gun reproofed and at what cost?
- and if reproofing an old gun does enhance its resale value, then would a london house reproofing be more advantageous, versus a birmingham house reproofing?
Last edited by ed good; 03/28/22 04:24 PM.
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