Mr. Jones. Thank you for the reply. I didn't notice the wad was an AA12R which I happen to have 3 and a half bags but never thought I'd have a use, and guess I still don't. Buying, or trying to buy Universal powder just for that load isn't practical. I make a 2&3/4 inch 1 ounce load now with Clays that if the data is accurate suits. It just struck me odd they would come up with a load using a powder they don't use in other common 12 ga loadings just because the hull is 2.5. Well, I guess they know what they are doing. Thanks again.