I can't handle the eights any more at 75, but I won't give up on the twelves, even when I reach 90 or more. My last one may be my grandfather's E Grade Lefever pigeon gun which has been in the family for 135 years. My VH Parker 28 has been with me for 63 years and would be my last lightweight. Second choice in either weight class would be a very late hammer bar in iron Purdey 12 bore pigeon gun in 1 1/4 ounce proof and a .410 VHE Parker skeet gun. I think these four are not too many to keep until the end.