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What is the pitch on your favorite upland gun? Been reading how important the pitch is in gun fit. I have put the pitch on a couple of my favorites to 2" and it seems to help. Not a verifiable improvement, but my head thinks it helps. Any thoughts? Randy
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We all like the looks of a zero pitch stock, but I find upon recoil they always slip down out of the shooting pocket. Two to two and a half and even two and three quarters degrees of pitch works best for me.
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Glenn Baker at Woodcock hill told me that most of his customers were accomodated by 5 to 7 degrees. Most of mine seem to be about 4 1/2 to 5. Not always sure how that tranlates to distance of muzzle from wall or door case but I agree that rib or barrels against the wall doesn't work for me. I changed pitch on a Brummy 12; about an 1/8" off the toe after removing colossally long stock extension and before adding pad.
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I cut all my stocks 90 degrees from the comb line, unless it is a monte carlo. That fits my body just fine. I don't really care what the pitch is. I want full contact between the butt and my shoulder pocket. This is the most important thing, IMO. In olden days, when shooters shot with a "head erect" position, pitch was more important in determining how high/low the gun shot. Not any more. Comb height is the determining factor in high/low impact.
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Jim: I'm not trying to stir the pot, but just get right on terminology, here. If I correctly understand the concept, every stock has pitch, just like every stock has length of pull, drop, etc. And that means you really do care what the pitch is on your guns, and you specifically want it to be 0 degrees, because that's what works best for you. Does that make sense, or am I thinking wrong on this? TT
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I was once fitted for a gun. The gentleman doing the fitting determined 0 pitch was best for me. I have had several guns cut with 0 pitch. I really do prefer it. For me at least, in a heavy winter coat the gun mounts much cleaner with no snags.
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90 degrees to the comb line could be anything unless the comb is parallel to the rib so I don't think most of Jim's guns are zero pitch. I believe most fitter/measurer types place a straitedge on the rib extended over the butt and pick up the pitch with a T-bevel or pointer type protractor.
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A simple measuring method is place the buttplate flat on the floor, move the gun to a wall thats 90degress to the floor and have the fences touch the wall. Measure the distance from the wall to the muzzle. Bingo!!. FWIW, O-2" is for bunny hunting, 2-3" for upland, above 3" for New Years, July 4th celebrations and for the gun you loan your brother in law. Now go figure. Randy
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The gun against the wall method will obviously give different readings if it has two sets of bbls, say 26" & 32",the longer the bbl, the further from the wall....that seems a little confusing....also the 90 degrees from comb line would vary according to the amount of drop. The degrees taken from a straight edge laid along rib seems a more consistent way to measure it cheers franc
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Hi TT, I have no problem with your stirring the pot but you didn't read(or understand) what I wrote. Read it again. Rabbit understood what I said. I said nothing about 0 degrees. I agree with RMC's description of how to measure pitch. Pitch is usually described in inches the muzzle is from the wall as RMC said, not discussed in degrees. Anybody can measure pitch as RMC said, determining degrees is beyond some folks. Once more, pitch is unimportant to me. How the butt fits my shoulder pocket is.
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