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Nice gun.
Sight of the Proof Marks will help date it.
Diggory Hadoke’s “Boxlocks” shows the Webley 700 introduced in 20 bore in 1957 , and the Model 720 as a best quality 20 bore version in 1966.
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Parabola, the serial number from the Whatley and Crawford book dates it made in 1970.
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It is a 700. I have a 12 ga 700 from approximately the same era & imported by Service Armament that has very nice wood, checkering &very nice execution of the basic 700 model engraving. It always seemed to me that the Service Armament imported guns were just a bit nicer for a given grade. I don't know if this was the era of production or if Service Armament held W & S to a higher standard.
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V1B is the Birmingham private viewer’s mark for 1970 so date is confirmed.
I agree with Brittany Man’s assessment, Model 700 with added effort.
I have not seen a Model 720, but from Diggory referring to it as “best quality” I would expect to see cheek panels with dropper points as per the Model 701.
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Daryl, I have a 700 from the same period and the wood is far superior to other 700’s I’ve owned. Grain is well filled and oil quality is better than average. Unfortunately, the engraving on this model was always of the poorest quality. Color case hardening from first to last was always good. Nice gun. And they’re good shooters!
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Agreed. 700. With nice wood. Other than the nice wood….what in your opinion makes it better than your other 700’s? Fit, finish & engraving quality looks very much standard 700’ish to me.
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Daryl, In my opinion your gun is aa special-order model 700 with 3 chambers, additional engraving and upgraded stock. W&S in addition to the 700 also made higher grade models, 701 and 702 both of these guns had enhanced engraving & figured wood. The stocks on these guns had drop points.
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I had a new condition 12 gauge Model 700 that went to a happy buyer. It was about 10,000 serial numbers earlier. My memory says this gun has higher quality wood and wood finish. Engraving ? From memory, I can't say. Certainly the bluing and case colors on this one stand out. But I cannot say they are better than the 100% gun. As Roy Hebbes points out, the 3" chambering seems unusual. Possibly in 20 gauge the 28" barrels are not the most common. I agree with Brittany Man's thoughts. Who knows for sure, but it's a nice example .
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This is 12ga #137884 from 1964, I sold it a few years back new in box. Looks like same pattern but wood was very plain.
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