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Can't comment on the ST issue. Have never owned an original Parker so equipped.
But the difference between a 16ga Parker on the standard 1 frame vs one on the 0 frame is significant. Same gun on the 1 frame would likely weigh half a pound or so more. I've been hunting grouse and woodcock with my 0 frame VH, 28" barrels. Tips the scale dead on at 6#. Also shot a straight at skeet with it about a week ago. Very nice gun. It has been restocked, but that's of no concern to me. I didn't pay to have it done, and it fits. And I didn't pay for originality. Fine if that's what you're after. I was only looking for a gun for hunting and target shooting.
The Repros fitted with 16ga barrels are also very nice.
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Just as a piece of Parker information, a #1 frame and a #0 frame Parker 16 or 20 does not always mean a "significant" weight difference or even any difference at all. I have 20 and 16, 0 frame and 1 frame, 26" and 28" Parkers, and they all weigh within 4 ounces of each other and the long barrels are not neccesarily heavier than the short barrels, and the #1 frame guns are not neccesarily heavier than the #0 frames. Each gun is an individual and no general statement can be made to cover all examples.
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Just as a piece of Parker information, a #1 frame and a #0 frame Parker 16 or 20 does not always mean a "significant" weight difference or even any difference at all. I have 20 and 16, 0 frame and 1 frame, 26" and 28" Parkers, and they all weigh within 4 ounces of each other and the long barrels are not neccesarily heavier than the short barrels, and the #1 frame guns are not neccesarily heavier than the #0 frames. Each gun is an individual and no general statement can be made to cover all examples. That's interesting. How do you get barrels of the same length (or even longer) but a larger gauge on a smaller frame to weigh as much or more than barrels of the same length but a smaller gauge? How can those larger barrels be made to fit on a smaller frame? The answer is less metal around larger holes. Which pretty much has to reduce weight . . . all else being equal. Unless maybe there's a really significant difference in the weight of the wood? The best example would be Repros with 16ga barrels on a 20ga frame--which means the ONLY difference is the barrels. I owned one. Weighed on my postal scale: 6/7 with the 28" 16ga barrels vs 6/11 with 26" 20ga barrels. The previous VH 16 1 frame gun I owned weighed 6/7 with 28" barrels. Current 28" VH 0 frame: 6/0. In that case, of course, we're talking different wood, so there are other factors at work.
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The only 16 gauge Parker I have ever owned goes back to 2010. A local gun shop had a PH 16 on a number one frame, DT, EXT and 28" Damascus barrels, uncut, choke=s and chamber lengths unknown. Fit me rather well, but I didn't want to buy the then available RST shorter shells for it, took it with me up to SC clays at Sagola, Iron Mt. Mich Father's Day week-end, and found 2 interested parties, sold it and only shot it on clays once. So, not a really valid comparioson, is it now? between proof steel barrels and Damascus barrels, as to weight, balance and over-all handling. RWTF
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The only 16 gauge Parker I have ever owned goes back to 2010. A local gun shop had a PH 16 on a number one frame, DT, EXT and 28" Damascus barrels, uncut, choke=s and chamber lengths unknown. Fit me rather well, but I didn't want to buy the then available RST shorter shells for it, took it with me up to SC clays at Sagola, Iron Mt. Mich Father's Day week-end, and found 2 interested parties, sold it and only shot it on clays once. So, not a really valid comparioson, is it now? between proof steel barrels and Damascus barrels, as to weight, balance and over-all handling. RWTF You had a Parker and sold it. Nice story there, Fox. JR
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Yes I did. Very nice upland gun, but I am NOT a fan of what the late Paul A. Curtis sometimes referred to as a "bastard gauge", and the gun dealer, Kirby Hoyt, if memory serves, made me a generous cash offer. Hard to say "No" to a gentleman, isn't it, especially like Kirby. About 5 years later, I bought a 12 gauge Ideal from Kirby, and as I am a Veteran, he doesn't charge us for shipping. Hard to top that. RWTF
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