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Sir-I read with a great degree of disgust-in the entire BATFE lack of interest in your "missing" valued weapon, and I hope that it does show up intact. But there is a very valid point you made, one that, IMO anyway, deserves elaboration-- How many of us on this forum would have receipts from guns we purchased, even private sales transactions, from years ago?? I have a few, in my case many of the firearms I now own and treasure, were purchased from good friend and master gunsmith, the late Brad Bachelder- a few at gun shows, also receipted, the rest were from family inheritance. How well any of that paperwork on his business forms, and passed the "Stevie Nicks" background check proceedure, so I would guess a record of those purchases would exist in the BATFE file system.. The biggest problem, as I see it, and sadly with all the senseless random shootings extant in the USA, the BATFE clowns would only track theft of the EBR class of weapons, and fine sporting arms such as your Ruger rifle would be regarded as would BB guns or their equivalent. I tend to have a distrust of our Gov't- in my 8 years in the USMC, my transfer of duty station orders were "lost" 3 times that I recall- "I'm from the Gov't and I'm really here to help"-- right. Best wishes for the safe recovery of your prized weapon--and I also suspect theft in this case- but as a Fox, I am suspicious by nature. RWTF
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That sucks Brian. I hope to is found quickly and delivered.
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none of our shipping options are perfect...
however, usps priority mail, insured and registered is our best option...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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I have had only two guns in my career that were actually stolen. Two at the same time at the delivery end. It was the driver. They caught him.
A few guns damaged. Numerous delayed or lost in the system.
I hope yours turns up.
I will say that if it does not you are in for a real knock down drag out fight with ups to get paid. Been down the road with them.
Good luck
John Boyd
John Boyd Quality Arms Inc Houston, TX 713-818-2971
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Do not expect much from local authorities if it was sent over state lines. They did nothing for me.
You have to de diligent and keep after ups.
They use to use an outside insurance company if you insured through ups. Like all insurance companies they are your best friends when the premiums are flowing their way, when the money needs to come your way they don’t know you.
John boyd
John Boyd Quality Arms Inc Houston, TX 713-818-2971
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Stanton, My proof is that it got to the final destination before being loaded into a delivery truck and just disappeared. It was scanned in at the facility. A 50" long package doesn't accidently get shoved under a counter. And there is a prior recent history of another high end gun being stolen there. same situation. same dealer destination. so, while there may be, ( as a realist I doubt it) an extremely small chance it was "misplaced" but given the facts and the situation, I will stand by my accusation that it was stolen.
Brian LTC, USA Ret. NRA Patron Member AHFGCA Life Member USPSA Life Member
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Lost until found. And even if it is only “ lost” who is to say it will ever be recovered and delivered? But lost none the less wether it is by incompetence or intent, lost. And if “accidentally” misplaced will it return to the system by magic or just be taken home like spoils of war? When I pay extra for a service I rightfully expect to receive that service. And if I declare value, then pay for insurance for that value I should get paid. After all I did not lose a valuable package entrusted to me, I did not know it was going to be lost. UPS lost the package and now they or their insurance carrier will try to weasel their way out out being responsible for the loss and then will demean its value. Good luck Brian. Been there and done that as we say.
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USPS is no better and horrible to settle a claim.
John Boyd
John Boyd Quality Arms Inc Houston, TX 713-818-2971
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My experience with UPS was the paperwork was scanned and forwarded to Oak Creek WI from Chicago.The package was never scanned on the to the Oak Creek truck. Both package and paperwork were scanned off the initial the truck from Va at Chicago. The racket involve the driver loading it back on his return VA bound truck with no scanning then unloading it at the VA depot again unscanned. It was then put on a top shelf in the warehouse to see if the dust would settle. When I told my local UPS mgr that after 4 days I was required by Law to Notify FBI. the dust became decidedly unsettled, it was located within 12 hours (in VA) and air shipped to the local UPS office for me to pick up.
Hugh Lomas, H.G.Lomas Gunmakers Inc. 920 876 3745
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My experience with UPS was the paperwork was scanned and forwarded to Oak Creek WI from Chicago.The package was never scanned on the to the Oak Creek truck. Both package and paperwork were scanned off the initial the truck from Va at Chicago. The racket involve the driver loading it back on his return VA bound truck with no scanning then unloading it at the VA depot again unscanned. It was then put on a top shelf in the warehouse to see if the dust would settle. When I told my local UPS mgr that after 4 days I was required by Law to Notify FBI. the dust became decidedly unsettled, it was located within 12 hours (in VA) and air shipped to the local UPS office for me to pick up. Worked my way through college at UPS and this doesn’t make any sense. Practically impossible to pull off. The semi drivers don’t load or unload anything. If Brian’s gun isn’t found, someone in the Missouri building snaked it.
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