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I believe that this gun has indeed undergone a major "upgrade". The stock is new. I have never seen a real piece of French walnut with that figure. The wood looks Turkish to me. I am not even sure that the grain at the head is remotely reasonable. The engraving is highly suspect as well. At the very least, it has been polished. However, I don't think that "la manu" ever did a low grade Ideal "anglais". And ditto for the (reversed) sideclips. So I think that this was at some point a high grade ideal (or maybe part of one).
As for the swivels, I have a 7RE/C that has them and I am 100% confident that they are originals. The "bretelle automatique" is OK if you don't need to use it for a long period of time. It has to be narrow by necessity, hence it is not confortable. Many customizations were possible on those high grade Ideal.
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WC, given the reluctance of the seller to show the barrel flats, my suspicions are that it was once "part" of a high grade Ideal. And I'm sure it's a restock.
I can't remember seeing your 7RE/C so it would be nice if you posted a pic or two. The higher grades are rare on both sides of the pond.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Thank you, WC. I was hoping you would chime in.
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Actually, my 7RE/C Ideal is at SKB's shop for badly needed repairs. It has suffered from a lot of issues (many were "bubba smith" induced) and severe corrosion to the the grip tang. So no pics at this stage. WC-
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Actually, here are a few pics I found, including the swivel. The 7RE/C is an ejector "As de pique" Perfection grade with short barrels (65cm). I found it on GB. WC-
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"Ace of Spades". Nice gun.
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viva la france! viva la differ ance!
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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"Ace of Spades". Nice gun. Yes, that is the kind of French gun I would be looking for. Other French guns I find interesting are those w/o barrel ribbing in middle or those with bottom rib missing from the makers shop.
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WC, thanks for finding and posting those photos. Don't believe I have seen that one before. Absolutely gorgeous. And no doubt it will be even better when it returns from Steve's shop. That's an engraving style I haven't seen much before.
One of the things I really like about Ideals are the different high grade engraving patterns. Like they let the engraver loose rather than confined his art to "Company Approved" patterns. Very glad I snagged my 6R EE 12 gauge. Now just keeping an eye out for a companion 16 gauge.
I miss the Darne/USA forums that M. Gournet used to maintain. A lot of good information got lost when those forums were shut down. Not very active but a treasure trove of info on Darne and Manufrance guns.
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The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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