I have a couple of 8 bores for geese but can only really use them in Scotland where inland goose flighting can still be legally done with lead (but not for much longer). Both have damascus barrels so steel is a no go and bismuth a very expensive option. I bought a single H & R 10 bore so as I can use steel here in England. Quite like it. Also have a Winchester SX4 that comes in handy. Lagopus.....