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keeping it simple and safe,
first fire a variety of factory loads advertised as "light", with the goal of finding those that fail to cycle the a5...
then, to be safe, test fire those light loads that failed to cycle the a5, in a strong, post ww2 sxs like a stevens 311 or fox b, etc...to see how they "feel"...
and by all means, do the foot pound calculations, if you like...
if everything looks and feels good, then test fire in your strongest old double gon with good fluid steel barrels and see how that feels...
if it dont feel right, then go on to the next load you wish to evaluate...
hopefully, by using this process of elimination, you will find factory loads that generate low felt recoil and are therefore, easy on your old gon...and you...
Last edited by ed good; 04/28/23 10:46 AM.
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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uh ted, this thread is about finding loads with low felt recoil...
it is not about barrel pressure...
Last edited by ed good; 04/27/23 06:39 PM.
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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uh ted, this thread is about finding loads with low felt recoil...
it is not about barrel pressure... Oh, but it is about pressure, ed. You just don’t grasp it. Best, Ted
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....I can change what loads cycle or don’t cycle your A5 with a drop of oil on the bronze bushing. Or, substituting a worn recoil spring for one that isn’t. Or a badly worn action spring....
....Best, Ted This is the first thing I thought about the ole A5. Hey Ed, why not just shoot doves with the Browning autoloader, and look up tested loads.
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To think that an A5 could be used with any sense of accuracy, or efficacy, to "test recoil" is beyond the pale.
Why don't you start a zinnia bed? You'll get much more satisfaction from it.
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Hold on a minute.
If you don’t change anything, and the cleanliness level stays the same, until the recoil spring fatigues, you can have reproducible distance traveled.
Just for that gun.
If his weight or limberness doesn’t change, and he stands the same way each time like leaning up against the tree or something, he very well could feel the difference in recoil between different cartridges.
But I do think that’s the long way around the barn.
I do not view his idea as useful.
He could do the same thing with a standing breech, standing up against the tree. He would definitely feel the difference.
Last edited by ClapperZapper; 04/28/23 09:31 AM.
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my theory is simply this...it takes a certain amount of recoil energy to cycle an a5, depending on the settings...less recoil energy will fail to cycle an a5...less recoil energy equates to less felt recoil...so, light loads should be identifed and then tested for felt recoil, for possible use in old double gons...if not a valid approach, then how else would one practially test the potential affect of factory loads on old gons...if not by shooting?
Last edited by ed good; 04/28/23 09:59 AM.
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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And remember that the A5 needs something to buck up against, to work. And if that isn’t there it won’t. An example might be hanging it from a string and then firing it.
Point being, if you want reproducible results, the test set up has to be reproducible.
Try two different loads of wildly different pressures, same speed and ejecta. You probably won’t feel a difference, yet could blow the chamber or barrel on an old gun
What good would that do?
Last edited by ClapperZapper; 04/28/23 10:10 AM.
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clap, why not just hold it to the shoulder?
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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