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Curious if anyone recalls the W&C Scott 4 bore double owned by Bernie Liberati. Supposedly the gun had been used by a market hunter who worked for one of the early hotels around Atlantic City and I'd love to find more history about the gun. Maybe someone out there remembers it or knows more? Who owned it before Bernie? He bought the gun probably 10-12 years ago and I acquired it from his estate last year.

Contact Josh 704-280-2382
He is no doubt at The Southern this weekend
https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...g-in-at-16lbs-12oz-.cfm?gun_id=101856964

I got it from Josh out of Bernie’s estate, great guy to work with. He didn’t know anything more about the history. I remember Bernie telling me about the gun and its story back when he got it but I don’t know who sold it to him. I was under the impression it had always been in New Jersey.

For those who don't know of Bernie (the format here is censoring the link - take out the spaces and cut & paste)
https://www. shot gun life . com/tag/bernie.html

He was a life member of the LCSCA
https://members.boardhost.com/lcsmith/msg/archive/1442158036.html

I had the pleasure to know Bernie, he wanted me to make some choke gages for his 4 bores to give to his friends that had 4 bore guns. So I went to his house and measured all of them. I wanted to make them out of aluminum but he wanted brass. I told him that he would need a belt holder to carry them, but he still wanted brass. When finished I asked him if he knew what the chokes might be and he didn't know, so between Bernie and his good friend Jim Stahl and myself we figured out what they might be. He was leary at first but I told him he owned more than anyone and to make them what we came up with.
I have the records of all his 10 4 bore including the W & C Scott & Son. Barrel length 38 3/16" Right bore: .938 choke: 898 constriction .040, Left bore: .938 choke: .898 constriction .040
He had a site I think it was called Big Bore . He and Jim Stahl had a gentleman make up 4 bore hull and he gave me one, looks like a small cannon shell.

This is what we collectively came up with as to choke/s and was stamped on each flat of the gage.

4 gauge choke gage

Full Imp. Modified Modified Imp. Cyl. Cyl/bore
.875 .890 .905 .920 .935

A great guy and my pleasure to have known him.

Bernie was quite the guy. He was very interesting and had some of the greatest shotguns ever made. I inherited his mobility problems but, like Bernie, I am still screwing around with big bores, even though I no longer am able to handle them.