First of all most English Setters in the Northeast are breed for grouse and woodcock. That means a close working dog. If you get a puppy that is your job to make him stay close. The other thing is that for grouse as soon as he gets the scent he has to point, no creeping, and that is your job also. As few have posted there are good breeders in your state. I highly recommend a dog that was bred from the DeCoverly Kennels in Pa. Also Pinecobles in N.Y. near Copperstown. Both breeders the lineage goes back to Ryman's Old Hemlock, and for Pinecobles also goes to Aspenglow, I believe they are either Wi. or Minn.
Picture of 16 month old Max from both of those kennels. Wieghs 65.7 lbs and is 27" at the shoulders.
First male I have ever owned, and I think he is going to be good. Very smart.
Remember, you can always get a dog to hunt close, but not the other way around.
If hunting just pheasants, you might find 1 out of 100 pointing type dogs that can do the job right. Flushing type or retrievers are the best, and I'm not talkling the pen-reared pheasants you see on most shows.
If you go to the website that Dave M posted, Setter Hills. You will see that their breeding stock is from Pinecobles.
