Thanks for the info and please keep suggestions coming!

A friend, and member of this board, in WI has an English setter and he reccomended the Ryman and Old Hemlock as well. He warned me that competition bloodlines would be speed demons, which is not what I am after.

How popular are English Setters these days? I did a search on this site before asking my question, but I only got about a dozen hits from the past year. I figured they would have been mentioend more than that.

JDW-

What did you mean by, "Remember, you can always get a dog to hunt close, but not the other way around" ? I have never owned a bird dog, so I am very green at this. Used to own between 15 and 25 dogs at any one time for many years, but most were running dogs.

skunk out