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Originally Posted by KY Jon
Stan, are you not happy with people giving money, to the government, in hopes of becoming the highest tax rate, tax payer. Half the ticket Monet goes directly to the lottery, the rest goes to the jackpot. Hit the big game and your 50% of the grand prize total, taken as a single payment, becomes 37% Federal, .9% Med.tax, state tax of 7-9% in most states, city or local income taxes as well. So you 50% share becomes a windfall tax for the government of almost 50% of your check. Then spend any money and pay 5-9% sales taxes, personal property taxes on large purchases, real estate taxes and on and on goes the tax bill. So the government gets 75+% of all lottery money one way or another. Worse will be the plague of people wanting money for their “charity” or friends and family wanting their share as well.

With that tax bill the only people I know who can afford to win the lottery are farmers. They can lose money, and still drive new pickups, for awhile wink. May the rains be gentle and winds fair my friend.

Somebody has to pay for this.

https://perc.tamu.edu/PERC-Blog/PERC-Blog/U-S-Farm-Subsidies-A-Prime-Example-of-Crony-Capita


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I wouldn't mind having an extra set of barrels for mine but I wouldn't want it to say CSM on it.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy W
I wouldn't mind having an extra set of barrels for mine but I wouldn't want it to say CSM on it.

Why?
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Because I would want original Winchester barrels and/or I wouldn't want them to say Galazan on them. Or, if they came from Galazan and didn't have his name on them and they just said, Winchester, and were stamped exactly like the original Winchester barrels, that would be okay. That's just the way I am.

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Then you will most likely do without…
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Unless I just buy a two barrel set with original barrels. Easy enough to find. Thanks for the input. smile

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Originally Posted by arrieta2
I would bet CSMC is having bbls made for them.


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The set on the left are Italian 21 barrels and on the right are New Haven originals.
You can always tell by the angle at the joint.

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Just wondering

How do you know they are Italian and did you think that set is current or were made awhile back?


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Originally Posted by lonesome roads
Originally Posted by KY Jon
Stan, are you not happy with people giving money, to the government, in hopes of becoming the highest tax rate, tax payer. Half the ticket Monet goes directly to the lottery, the rest goes to the jackpot. Hit the big game and your 50% of the grand prize total, taken as a single payment, becomes 37% Federal, .9% Med.tax, state tax of 7-9% in most states, city or local income taxes as well. So you 50% share becomes a windfall tax for the government of almost 50% of your check. Then spend any money and pay 5-9% sales taxes, personal property taxes on large purchases, real estate taxes and on and on goes the tax bill. So the government gets 75+% of all lottery money one way or another. Worse will be the plague of people wanting money for their “charity” or friends and family wanting their share as well.

With that tax bill the only people I know who can afford to win the lottery are farmers. They can lose money, and still drive new pickups, for awhile wink. May the rains be gentle and winds fair my friend.

Somebody has to pay for this.

https://perc.tamu.edu/PERC-Blog/PERC-Blog/U-S-Farm-Subsidies-A-Prime-Example-of-Crony-Capita


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It's the price of cheap food for Americans. People who bich about food prices should have to shop for their groceries in other countries where there are no "subsidies". Without the current "subsidies" many farmers would go broke, go out of business, their farmland would be sold, and corporate farms would likely buy up the land and, with drastically fewer farms (of much larger size) growing your food, they could likely reach the size necessary to manipulate production in order to control/manipulate the markets. This would bring extreme prices for food, or shortages of the same. Is that what you want in place of piecemeal, partial price protection for farmers? Because, that's the alternative.

Another relevant point .......... when a unilateral embargo of American agricultural commodities can be used by the Feds to bring another nation to it's knees, and the commodities market crashes for farmers who grow/own those commodities, should not that same government provide something in return to the farmers, such as price protections? This has been done twice in my lifetime of farming, and the markets crashed causing thousands of farms to go broke. When commodity prices are good there are no PLC "subsidies" paid out. No one mentions that though, even though that's the price of a stable, reasonably priced food supply.

Next time you bich about "subsidies" don't do it with your mouth full.


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Originally Posted by John Roberts
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And also, for the price of $2000.00 that they charge for their barrels plus what they want for the fitting- I can just about buy another original gun!! So, it would be better to go without. smile

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