In an earlier post, I mentioned that I shoot a 40 some year old 682 that has been shot tens of thousands of trouble free rounds. I forgot the The Lovely Linda shoots a small frame 686 20 gauge with added 28 gauge barrels. I don't shoot that gun very much, but it would be my choice for an all around gun for both beginners and kids. It is a six pound wonder gun. Linda's late husband bought that gun for probably about $450 from the closeout rack at the Beretta club in Maryland in the mid eighties. All of my Berettas came from the same source at bargain prices.