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The above shotgun, early Winchester import, 2 barrel set, both numbered to the gun, one being a single barrel trap. Non-selective trigger and from my recollection of ones i've had before fires the bottom barrel first. The single barrel is an upper. So how do you go about firing the upper barrel only? The gun came with 2 complete trigger groups. The spare trigger group obviously fires both barrels. The one that's in the gun, I've not removed to look at yet.

Roger

Send it to Don Rackley. He's my trigger man for Perazzis, and a fine man to do business with. I highly recommend him.

Have you dropped a snap cap in the single with appropriate trigger and tried it?

Take the trigger out and look at it?

HTH

Dr.WtS

And by looking at the triggers it fires the correct barrel?

Checked after posting, and both trigger groups are numbered to the gun just like both barrel sets. based on how complete the rig is and everything matching and having the spare parts kit and original case, i'm going to assume the spare group is set up to fire the top barrel first. Will try them both tonight.

I think before i send anything to anybody i'll figure out if i even have a problem but i really doubt i do. i know the group that was in the gun when i bought it fires the bottom first.

Roger

The only problem Perazzi triggers have that I've noticed is that they are incredibly Simple and easy to service and incompetent owners that think they can "fix them up" .

So, one trigger assembly is set up to fire bottom barrel first. The other fires the top barrel first. Which is what i expected anyway after noticing the trigger assemblies were numbered to the gun just like the barrels.

Meaning, it doesn't need to be sent anywhere or worked on. I'd never had one set up like that before; did not know the triggers could be set to fire that way. Yeah, these need no fixing.

There is a reason that it is set up to fire the bottom barrel first when you have the O/U barrels on the gun. And the top barrel when the single barrel is on the gun. My Bereta Silver Pigeon has a switch on it to set the gun up that way..........When you are shooting both barrels, like at skeet, say, you shoot one shot more often than you shoot two. So, you want the bottom barrel to shoot first. Theoretically, shooting the bottom barrel more reduces wear on the gun. Because when you shoot the top barrel, there is a greater angle and force against the gun barrel than there is when you shoot the bottom barrel. So, when you shoot skeet or sporting clays, you are shooting one shot more often than you are shooting two shots or both barrels This saves wear and tear on the gun. On my Beretta 686 there is a switch on top of the receiver. If I want to shoot doubles, I have to move the switch one way in order to use both barrels. And the bottom barrel will always shoot first. If I decide to shoot trap and put one barrel back on the gun, the gun won't shoot, because it is set to shoot the bottom barrel first. So in order to shoot the top barrel alone, I have to take a small screw driver, remove the screw and switch the lever back over to use the single barrel. Manufacturers make the gun this way so that it will reduce wearing out the gun faster. If you switch them so that the top barrel fires first when the O/U barrels are on the gun, you are defeating the wear on the gun and you will knock it off face quicker.

On every Beretta 680 series gun that I've had, the barrel selector only changes the firing order and restricts nothing.

Shoot any barrel you care to first. You won't live long enough to wear a Beretta off-face.

HTH

Dr.WtS

If I shoot doubles with my 686 Silver Pigeon, and have the selector switch set so that the bottom barrel shoots first- then I take the over/under barrels off and put the single barrel on the gun to shoot trap, if I don't take a screw driver, remove the screw and switch the selector lever over to shoot the top barrel first, the gun won't fire. I've had it happen before................... If you look at the 2006 Ohio State Trap Shooting Hall Of Fame you'll see a Richard "Pat" Neff. He used to shoot a 682 Beretta. He shot at my club and was/is on the board of directors. I watched him shoot one time, years ago in the winter. He had that gun so worn out, it ended up, when he shot it , a huge puff of smoke would blow out the breech every time he fired the gun- it was so off face. So yeah, you can wear those Beretta trap guns out if you shoot them enough.

Of course the gun won't fire. It has an inertial setting trigger. The bottom barrel snaps but doesn't set the top barrel cos there's no boom! There's nothing "locked out".

I have to admit that I find the smoke blowing Beretta hard to believe for a number of reasons. But that might just be me.

It would be very difficult to wear out a Beretta beyond rebuildable IMO. But then anything is possible if there's a dedicated effort.

Have a day

Dr.WtS

In other words, if your selector switch is only showing one red dot, and you want to shoot the gun with only the single barrel, you have to remove the screw on the sector switch on the gun, and move the selector switch so that two red dots are showing, because it is locked in the wrong position. Other wise, you are trying to shoot the bottom barrel first, and since there is no barrel there, THE GUN WON'T FIRE. At least twice since I have had the gun, I went to shoot a round of trap and I had to stop , get a small screw driver, remove the selector screw and move the lever over because the gun wouldn't fire. I had previously been shooting both barrels and forgot to switch the lever back over. So, to me, if the gun selector switch is in the wrong position, it is locked out or whatever you want to call. it. So you are correct- if the switch is locked and screwed down in the wrong position, no inertia. Ha-ha!! Good luck..

Another reason that people like to shoot the bottom barrel first (when they are shooting both over under barrels) is that, supposedly, there is less recoil when you shoot the bottom barrel. And with less recoil, you can get a better shot on the second shot. Good luck guys.

Another thing to consider, after you have fired the over/under barrels and you want to put the single trap barrel on the gun, how is the gun going to reset BY INERTIA, if you haven't even fired the gun? It won't. And it won't fire at all, until you remove the set screw from the selector switch, move the selector switch into the correct position to fire the top barrel FIRST and then lock it in that position by replacing the set screw, You don't want to leave the set screw out, because you could bump the switch when you fire the gun and push it to the wrong side. You want to make sure you put the set screw back in the gun and LOCK it in that position. Have a nice day. .

You are making the whole thing really complicated. Probably 99% of Berettas with selectable triggers don't have the lock screw or even an accommodation for it.
Change barrels
Flip the selector
Open the gun
Load the gun
Close the gun
Shoot

Same scheme will work for Perazzis with selector triggers

HTH
Have a day
Dr.WtS