Stan, you may be right on the insecticide, but some years ago I talked to an old established Iowa farmer who raised mostly corn. The corn he was now raising , of course, was "Roundup Ready" and was not affected by Roundup. The farmer said that he'd not seen a grasshopper in 4 years. Around my house in Montana,Roundup kills everything I spray. Of course those plants are not genetically changed to Roundup Ready. What plants do you feel are Roundup resistant except for the genetically protected ones ?