We've had this conversation before John.
David is the Technical Advisor for the LCSCA and previous editor of the Journal of the LCSCA
Unlike Dave Buehler/Pine Creek Dave he is most certainly fixed in reality.
Argue opinions if you wish...not assumed personalities.
Preacher, how is it that you feel morally justified in admonishing JR over a simple case of mistaken identity, while at the same time continuing your frequent denigration of Pine Creek Dave for his erroneous assumptions about L.C. Smith shotguns? Was your latest personal attack on him really necessary... especially when you have repeatedly preached about personal attacks???
I think a lot of knowledgeable guys here would take serious exception to this statement below. I also know that gunsmiths and gunmakers such as Dewey Vicknair would disagree completely, and perhaps feel it is no more rooted in fact or reality than some of Pine Creek Dave's thoughts:
I have to partially disagree with Lloyd, the Syracuse L.C. Smith's were built in my opinion better that any other gun including the English guns.
I own several L.C. Smith guns and was once enamored with them until I knew better. They do the job and some are very nice looking. And neither my post-1913 12 or 20 ga. Ideal Grades nor my 16 ga. Field Grade Featherweight have cracks behind the lockplates. But they, and my pre-1913 Smith's, have several design flaws and weaknesses that go beyond the fact that they are not assembled with the same care as a quality English gun.
One thing that seems quite evident is that Pine Creek Dave probably owns more L.C. Smith guns than you, and also has more actual hands-on experience with them. From your statements here, it appears that you own one L.C. Smith O Grade Damascus shotgun that has barrels which are honed to .016" thick at 14" from the breech. Other than that, it appears you merely have an impressive collection of pictures of guns, and a bunch of old advertising copy... yet you pose as an expert. So when you say Pine Creek Dave is not "fixed in reality", are you perhaps simply projecting your own deficiencies and maybe some shotgun envy too?
