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craig are you saying that the hundreds of documented dead eagles, photographed, autopsied, and confirmed to have died of lead poisoning are all a hoax? Just curious what you are claiming is a hoax. There are tons of data on the effect of lead on waterfowl populations. I'm unaware of any such study that has been retracted but there are many, many such studies. I've posted many of them here in the past, and , of course, you and Stan, etc. simply claim it is all a hoax and conspiracy without a shred of evidence to the back that up. We've been down that road many times. Personally, I don't worry about lead poisoning in bald eagles now that waterfowl have been been protected. Eagles may die, and die in substantial numbers, but their populations continue to expand. As far as I'm concerned it is a population-level problem, or it's not a problem. For waterfowl it was a problem and that has been evaluated many, many times. So, go do your homework to dispute them all. It might take you a week or two...  No Brent, I never said it wasn't possible to become sick, or die from lead poisoning, and I never used the word, hoax. Every comment above is your opinion, and not science. I see nothing wrong, and it's my personal instincts, to not be impressed or swayed by you talking down to me from your academic ivory tower. It is not lost on me that a quick look at the cv of the lead author of the piece I selected, happens to be a colleague of yours in Iowa. If you can speculate about the unimportance of lead poisoning in bald eagles, then I will note the left wing political agendas you've aligned with over the years here, and that you find comfort in working towards common goals with like minded "ecologists", grant sponges? Simply, you selectively read. I want to know, as you have taken years of failing to explain, why you can shoot tons of lead slugs out of single shot rifles into the wildlife habitat of your choosing, but support politically motivated bans against those who enjoy sporting choices that do not interest you? You use anedotes, I want to know, where are the incidental, unfortunate green arses of today, in waterfowl habitat where sportsmen can factually say that lead firearms projectiles are currently used. Don't distract, we do not need retractions to create political policy, do we?
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