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No I bought it for quail and hoped for a few grouse hunts. I shot maybe a thousand Skeet targets with it. It was a neat little gun but it was just a 12 who identified as a 20/28. Those 2", roll crimped Federal Paper hulls were so good looking. And few things smell better than smoke coming out of a paper empty hull on a cool morning. As to chokes, mine was IM in both barrels. Like most it was made by Skimin & Wood. It said J & W Tolley on the side but was a S & W of the British type. In fact I think S & W ended up buying Tolley in the end.

But my quail efforts went for nothing when the State introduce Turkeys on my land. I can not prove that turkeys were the last nail, but I would gladly shoot them all and start over again. To hear a Bob call in the evening would keep my heart young. Over 25 years I spent a large amount of money trying to restore quail to my land. Twice I was certain I was going the right direction, only to have one crash due to extreme weather and the a forever crash to an invasive turkey pest only exceeded by the pestilence of white tail deer. All the DNR cares about are deer numbers and turkey numbers. Both overrated and out of control as far as I am concerned. On any evening I can show you 20 to 50 deer on one of my farms. The crop damage they cause is no laughing matter. My best farm had 8-12 large, healthy coveys at one point and now has only one or two. In the county I grew up in what once was 800-1200 coveys now would be lucky to be 50 coveys. Part due to development, part due to hedge row removal, herbicide, insecticides, no predator control and near criminal indifference from the DNR. I'm sure now it is all global warmings' fault.

After 50 yrs of quail hunting and only my personal observation, but I believe that fescue proliferation EVERYWHERE is the biggest culprit to the demise of the bobwhite quail. Having said that, However, I do realize there is more to it than just fescue, but fescue is horrible imho.

What a dolt. If you must pattern, do it at the distance your birds flush, as you will be right on them.

A little bit uncalled for, eh Craig….since the guy just wants to learn how to pattern a shotgun??

Buzz, craigd was obviously responding in a perfectly appropriate manner after the Nutty Professor referred to him as a Dolt in the Simon Says Thread. In my opinion, craigd is far too nice to the Libtards who frequently attack him. But you should know how selective civility and selective moderation works by now.

Remember, this is the hypocrite who complains about personal attacks and name calling, and who runs a one (pick a pronoun) campaign to defund this site. This is also the same hypocrite who tells us that Upland Journal forum is better in every way. Brad Eden, the administratior of Upland Journal forum, would not tolerate this behavior. So the people who complain the most about Dave Weber's tolerance also frequently benefit from it.

Sorry Doc Buzz, I wouldn’t call you a dolt, but that’s how Brent and I converse. I thought it would be okay on his thread, but I can see that others may not share the same connection.

By the way, I like his picture of the country side, two hundred years ago, but where’s the pattern board? Best thought from others, take a picture of the pattern and count or analyze in the comfort of one’s home, later. Might also consider a grouse sized point of aim and don’t adjust if the point of aim is off, learn from it. For lighter loads, maybe send two loads at the plate, before refreshing, and don’t count, just look for trends?

Thanks Craig.