Originally Posted by mc
I have asked those questions of gun sellers .I was responding to you , asking reasonable queons on an open forum....

Gee Mark, this following post which you made yesterday, doesn't sound like a reasonable person asking reasonable questions on an open forum. It sounds like more of the same attempts that you, and others who have the goal of driving Ed away and disrupting his sales here, have been doing for a long time:

Originally Posted by mc
Tarted up modified barrel steel removed from the breach refinished lc smith buyer beware

There were some concerns about Ed's return policy several years ago. And the guys who simply hate him were successful in convincing Dave to pull his advertisements. However, since then, Dave is apparently satisfied with Ed's policies. And he is apparently aware that Ed is more than willing to pay him the $12.00 fee for a successful sale... unlike a couple Free Advertising Gunsmiths who want everyone to believe that they have integrity.

So who are you to question Ed's return policies, and to subsequently prevent a sale that would result in Dave getting paid? Are you a Moderator or Site Administrator who has the right to determine who may post guns for sale here? How many guns have you personally bought from Ed, and how many did he refuse a return on for good cause? Is Ed boasting or sending you PM's about doing Free Advertising in his Tagline like the seller of refinished guns you defended yesterday?

There are people here who would just stand there and allow you to piss on their leg, and tell them it's raining. I'm not one of them.

Originally Posted by David Williamson
Keith, when I referred to integrity, anyone that would want this gun as a collector gun would not want the chambers lengthened. I know I wouldn't at that price. As an original 2E with the last style of engraving and straight stock it would bring close to that at auction, but in my opinion not with the chambers lengthened and refinished.

David, perhaps you used a poor choice of words when you commented that Ed's gun has "ruined integrity", instead of saying that chamber lengthening might negatively affect collector value. Better you would have said nothing at all since you are not an interested buyer. Personally, I also prefer vintage doubles that are in original condition. However, we know that many guys are willing to pay a premium for a nice shiny refinished gun with opened chokes, and chambers that handle easily available ammo. Some guys even pay many times what a gun is worth to Turnbulls, Bachelders, Kearcher, etc., to have their guns refinished... often with period incorrect finishes. And they do this knowing they may never recoup their cost. It also appears that Ed's selling price is mainly in the hands of the guy who consigned it to him. Ed's profit will be a small percentage of the sales price, and he will pay Dave $12.00 out of his profit.... because he actually does have that sort of integrity. Guys who think the price is too high should PM Ed to see if the consigner will accept less. That's what Ed did recently when he tried to buy a gun from battle. I see a lot of guns here from other sellers that have asking prices much higher than I consider realistic. I never have dumped on their Threads because of that.

So from this point on, I expect that we will be seeing you make similar comments about "ruined integrity" whenever you see someone else selling any gun in refinished condition, or with altered chambers, chokes, etc. That would convince me that you are sincere, and weren't just targeting Ed, knowing your comments would have a negative effect upon his attempt to sell his gun. Until then, the same thought about pissing on our legs applies.

And finally, it seems that the Nutty Professor wishes to affirm once again that he was lying when he recently claimed to be interested in buying a gun from Ed. Not only that, but he seems to think he not only has the right to run a One-Turd Whining Crybaby" campaign to defund this site, but that he also has the right to decide who has the right to post For Sale advertisements here:

Originally Posted by BrentD, Prof
Since when did you ever pay attention to that, ed? When?

Maybe you should keep YOUR thoughts off the board. And your junk guns. You never sell them anyway. Still got the .410? Too bad, but I really was interested in a .410.

If Ed or jOe did this crap, several phony hypocrites here would be screaming to Dave to have them banned and censored. Many of them would be doing their crying to Dave in PM's or emails. They don't have the stones or honesty to admit that their fraudulent complaints are simply a cover excuse they use to silence and drive away their enemies. I'd also advise Ed to not take the bait by responding to battle and others in kind, because they will then try to have him banned by crying in unison to Dave. If the Nutty Professor did this Trolling and defunding campaign over on Upland Journal Forum, Brad Eden would bounce him in a heartbeat. This place really needs more Moderation... and psychological help for pathological frauds and liars too.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.