I have a good supply of the RST Pigeon loads, but have never shot any because of the price. My 1 1/4 ounce #7 1/2 reloads in once fired CF AA cases have served me well. The price of pigeons has conserved my pigeon loads to the point where I may never run out. Our last Columbaire shoot was $370 a day plus tips. A little rich for a shooter of my limited ability.