Angelos VISE is interesting. We say if these guns could talk, the stories they could tell. Just think how much beautiful engraving that VISE has seen and help create. It is massive, about five times the size of the little one I have. Mine has only engraved a couple screws since I got it. Mine would most likely scream if it could talk "no go straight your klutz, or gently, gently, that is ok, it will buff out". Obviously mine has a judgemental sense of humor.